Change the 24 caliber min in washington(added poll please vote)

[bigtex]

I guess we will keep living the California laws.

California doesn't have minimum calibers for rifles or handguns. They have a .40 caliber minimum for muzzleloaders. They're only requirement is that guns must use a "softnose or expanding projectile" which is a "bullet designed to increase from its original diameter, commonly referred to as “mushrooming”, and retain a significant part of its original weight upon impact with, or when passing through the tissues of an animal"

[Bango skank]

Ya you can't fix stupid
Wdfw always says how there under funded,but things like this rule can bring in more hunters,in state , and out of state.young ,old,woman,ect.I really don't think where much different than the other states around us.I guess we will keep living the California laws.

Oh, so we need lower recoil to bring in more woman, youth etc. Hunters. 

But didnt you just say this in another thread?

I also 1+ the 243 ,that's all my wife shoots,and because of the low recoil she is really good shot with it , maybe better than me

yes I did say that in another tread,i do follow the laws,even if I don't like them,not all people can say that.

But you were saying how .243 has really low recoil, and your wife shoots it great because of that.  Then in another thread you keep advocating for .223, cause women and kids can shoot it due to low recoil.  *censored*

[JimmyHoffa]

I guess we will keep living the California laws.

California doesn't have minimum calibers for rifles or handguns. They have a .40 caliber minimum for muzzleloaders. They're only requirement is that guns must use a "softnose or expanding projectile" which is a "bullet designed to increase from its original diameter, commonly referred to as “mushrooming”, and retain a significant part of its original weight upon impact with, or when passing through the tissues of an animal"

Aren't they also eliminating lead bullets for copper/non-toxic?

I just want to hunt grouse with a sling shot. 

You and me both!

[bigtex]

I guess we will keep living the California laws.

California doesn't have minimum calibers for rifles or handguns. They have a .40 caliber minimum for muzzleloaders. They're only requirement is that guns must use a "softnose or expanding projectile" which is a "bullet designed to increase from its original diameter, commonly referred to as “mushrooming”, and retain a significant part of its original weight upon impact with, or when passing through the tissues of an animal"

Aren't they also eliminating lead bullets for copper/non-toxic?

Yup they're slowly phasing in a no-lead law for all hunting.

[hunter399]

Ya you can't fix stupid
Wdfw always says how there under funded,but things like this rule can bring in more hunters,in state , and out of state.young ,old,woman,ect.I really don't think where much different than the other states around us.I guess we will keep living the California laws.

Oh, so we need lower recoil to bring in more woman, youth etc. Hunters. 

But didnt you just say this in another thread?

I also 1+ the 243 ,that's all my wife shoots,and because of the low recoil she is really good shot with it , maybe better than me

yes I did say that in another tread,i do follow the laws,even if I don't like them,not all people can say that.

But you were saying how .243 has really low recoil, and your wife shoots it great because of that.  Then in another thread you keep advocating for .223, cause women and kids can shoot it due to low recoil.  *censored*

What would caliber would u tell a woman to use with current laws

[jay.sharkbait]

I guess we will keep living the California laws.

California doesn't have minimum calibers for rifles or handguns. They have a .40 caliber minimum for muzzleloaders. They're only requirement is that guns must use a "softnose or expanding projectile" which is a "bullet designed to increase from its original diameter, commonly referred to as “mushrooming”, and retain a significant part of its original weight upon impact with, or when passing through the tissues of an animal"

Aren't they also eliminating lead bullets for copper/non-toxic?

Yup they're slowly phasing in a no-lead law for all hunting.

That would suck.

[Bob33]

I guess we will keep living the California laws.

California doesn't have minimum calibers for rifles or handguns. They have a .40 caliber minimum for muzzleloaders. They're only requirement is that guns must use a "softnose or expanding projectile" which is a "bullet designed to increase from its original diameter, commonly referred to as “mushrooming”, and retain a significant part of its original weight upon impact with, or when passing through the tissues of an animal"

Aren't they also eliminating lead bullets for copper/non-toxic?

Yup they're slowly phasing in a no-lead law for all hunting.

That would suck.

§250.1.Prohibition on the Use of Lead Projectiles and Ammunition Using Lead Projectiles for the Take of Wildlife.

(a) Purpose. This regulation phases in the requirements of Fish and Game Code Section 3004.5, which prohibits the use of any lead projectiles or ammunition containing lead projectiles when taking any wildlife with a firearm on or after July 1, 2019.

[Bango skank]

Ya you can't fix stupid
Wdfw always says how there under funded,but things like this rule can bring in more hunters,in state , and out of state.young ,old,woman,ect.I really don't think where much different than the other states around us.I guess we will keep living the California laws.

Oh, so we need lower recoil to bring in more woman, youth etc. Hunters. 

But didnt you just say this in another thread?

I also 1+ the 243 ,that's all my wife shoots,and because of the low recoil she is really good shot with it , maybe better than me

yes I did say that in another tread,i do follow the laws,even if I don't like them,not all people can say that.

But you were saying how .243 has really low recoil, and your wife shoots it great because of that.  Then in another thread you keep advocating for .223, cause women and kids can shoot it due to low recoil.  *censored*

What would caliber would u tell a woman to use with current laws

Probably .243, the same caliber that you said your wife shoots great, due to the low recoil

[jay.sharkbait]

I guess we will keep living the California laws.

California doesn't have minimum calibers for rifles or handguns. They have a .40 caliber minimum for muzzleloaders. They're only requirement is that guns must use a "softnose or expanding projectile" which is a "bullet designed to increase from its original diameter, commonly referred to as “mushrooming”, and retain a significant part of its original weight upon impact with, or when passing through the tissues of an animal"

Aren't they also eliminating lead bullets for copper/non-toxic?

Yup they're slowly phasing in a no-lead law for all hunting.

That would suck.

§250.1.Prohibition on the Use of Lead Projectiles and Ammunition Using Lead Projectiles for the Take of Wildlife.

(a) Purpose. This regulation phases in the requirements of Fish and Game Code Section 3004.5, which prohibits the use of any lead projectiles or ammunition containing lead projectiles when taking any wildlife with a firearm on or after July 1, 2019.

That's going to impact the AR hunting calibers.

Some of them aren't going to like long light bullets.

[hunter399]

Ya you can't fix stupid
Wdfw always says how there under funded,but things like this rule can bring in more hunters,in state , and out of state.young ,old,woman,ect.I really don't think where much different than the other states around us.I guess we will keep living the California laws.

Oh, so we need lower recoil to bring in more woman, youth etc. Hunters. 

But didnt you just say this in another thread?

I also 1+ the 243 ,that's all my wife shoots,and because of the low recoil she is really good shot with it , maybe better than me

yes I did say that in another tread,i do follow the laws,even if I don't like them,not all people can say that.

But you were saying how .243 has really low recoil, and your wife shoots it great because of that.  Then in another thread you keep advocating for .223, cause women and kids can shoot it due to low recoil.  *censored*

What would caliber would u tell a woman to use with current laws

Probably .243, the same caliber that you said your wife shoots great, due to the low recoil

Just cause my wife can does not mean every wife can.

[Oh Mah]

Please don't flame me on this but i heard years ago that the reason these restrictions even came into play was because of the poachers.Didn't make sense when i heard it then and don't make any sense now.Anyone got stats on what the weapon of choice is for poachers?

[Lefthook]

Please don't flame me on this but i heard years ago that the reason these restrictions even came into play was because of the poachers.Didn't make sense when i heard it then and don't make any sense now.Anyone got stats on what the weapon of choice is for poachers?

I heard many, many years ago (25+) that some poachers were caught on dirt bikes with AR's poaching in the Capitol Forest. Not sure that makes it a poachers go to gun but I guess if you don't want to spend any time trying to get in position for a good shot the "spray and pray" idea might seem appealing.

[Bill W]

Ya you can't fix stupid
Wdfw always says how there under funded,but things like this rule can bring in more hunters,in state , and out of state.young ,old,woman,ect.I really don't think where much different than the other states around us.I guess we will keep living the California laws.

The type of people it would bring you probably wouldn't want out in the woods.   I wonder about the wisdom of the people that are angling for it.  It's dumb and ill advised.  It would lead to a lot of wounded and/or unrecovered animals.  So why would a reasonable and knowledgable hunter want that?

[jay.sharkbait]

Please don't flame me on this but i heard years ago that the reason these restrictions even came into play was because of the poachers.Didn't make sense when i heard it then and don't make any sense now.Anyone got stats on what the weapon of choice is for poachers?

I would think it would be .22 rimfire.

[yorketransport]

Please don't flame me on this but i heard years ago that the reason these restrictions even came into play was because of the poachers.Didn't make sense when i heard it then and don't make any sense now.Anyone got stats on what the weapon of choice is for poachers?

I would think it would be .22 rimfire.

I assumed that it would be the 33 Poachers Pet.