WDFW Funding Clean Up of Homeless Camps

[Oh Mah]

Its  a simple case of going after someone that has means and leaving a protected class to do whatever at will.

[EmeraldBullet]

So what are these homeless people supposed to do? Where are they supposed to go? Many of them would be willing to work if you'd hire them....No takers?

[bigtex]

Chain gang them in the park till it's clean,little community service not gonna hurt

yep,like it used to be before the libs took over and started to think they don't have anything to talke so let them do whatever.There is always a way to make them pay,as long as you don't have to give them the comforts.

That still requires a prosecutor to take the case. The issue here isn't the penalty, it's the lack of prosecutors in WA.

I disagree,Its not a lack of anything but the will to do it against the liberals of this state.If i went out and littered and i refused to pay the fine as you put it,The state would have no problem with getting a prosecutor to prosecute me. PERIOD.

If you went out and littered, lets say a garbage full of wrapping paper ($103 infraction) or a lit cigarette ($1,025 infraction) and you didn't pay it realistically nothing would happen. Technically the county could push the ticket to collections but its up to the county and collections. Theoretically a prosecutor could charge you with the crime of failing to pay a ticket, but I guarantee if you call your prosecutor and ask them the last time they filed charges on someone for failing to pay an infraction they would probably laugh at you.

If you fail to pay a traffic infraction your license is suspended.
Fail to pay a fish and wildlife infraction, it counts towards a fish and wildlife conviction for hunting and fishing license suspension.
Fail to pay any other 'infraction' it may get pushed to collections. It's not a crime so a warrant can't be issued for your arrest.

[Oh Mah]

So what are these homeless people supposed to do? Where are they supposed to go? Many of them would be willing to work if you'd hire them....No takers?

I'M NOT A POLITICALLY CORRECT PERSON,They can pound sand for all i care.There's work out there but its being done by the illegals that the same people are keeping here so to answer you,They can go live with all the liberals that help keep them where they are in society.DOWN AND IN NEED OF THEM TO CARE FOR THEM.


HOWS THAT FOR YOU?

[olyguy79]

Chain gang them in the park till it's clean,little community service not gonna hurt

yep,like it used to be before the libs took over and started to think they don't have anything to talke so let them do whatever.There is always a way to make them pay,as long as you don't have to give them the comforts.

That still requires a prosecutor to take the case. The issue here isn't the penalty, it's the lack of prosecutors in WA.

I disagree,Its not a lack of anything but the will to do it against the liberals of this state.If i went out and littered and i refused to pay the fine as you put it,The state would have no problem with getting a prosecutor to prosecute me. PERIOD.

If you went out and littered, lets say a garbage full of wrapping paper ($103 infraction) or a lit cigarette ($1,025 infraction) and you didn't pay it realistically nothing would happen. Technically the county could push the ticket to collections but its up to the county and collections. Theoretically a prosecutor could charge you with the crime of failing to pay a ticket, but I guarantee if you call your prosecutor and ask them the last time they filed charges on someone for failing to pay an infraction they would probably laugh at you.

If you fail to pay a traffic infraction your license is suspended.
Fail to pay a fish and wildlife infraction, it counts towards a fish and wildlife conviction for hunting and fishing license suspension.
Fail to pay any other 'infraction' it may get pushed to collections. It's not a crime so a warrant can't be issued for your arrest.

Bigtex is correct. Seems to be a lot of paranoia in here.

The legislature has not given the justice system any practical way of going after people who fail to pay what are known as 'civil infractions'. Examples are several littering statutes already mentioned, drinking in public, and smoking in public.


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[olyguy79]

Good post Bigtex.   Frustrating!

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[EmeraldBullet]

So what are these homeless people supposed to do? Where are they supposed to go? Many of them would be willing to work if you'd hire them....No takers?

I'M NOT A POLITICALLY CORRECT PERSON,They can pound sand for all i care.There's work out there but its being done by the illegals that the same people are keeping here so to answer you,They can go live with all the liberals that help keep them where they are in society.DOWN AND IN NEED OF THEM TO CARE FOR THEM.
HOWS THAT FOR YOU?

LOL. So you offer no solution. I agree that the liberal solution keeps them down and doesn't offer any real help. You're just as bad as a liberal. How's that for you?

The homeless are still people. They deserve some degree of decency. If you don't like the litter they create why not volunteer to help clean it up? Either do something to fix the problem or you are enabling the liberals to justify spending our tax dollars to do it.

[Oh Mah]

WHAT DO YOU MEAN I HAVE NO SOLUTION?SOLUTION: STOP TAKING CARE OF THEM AND THEY WILL START TAKING CARE OF THEMSELVES.THE LIBERAL VOTERS MAKE IT EASIER FOR THEM TO BE HOMELESS IN SO MANY WAYS,ONE BEING TRYING TO KEEP WASHINGTON A SANCTUARY STATE.GET RID OF THE ILLEGALS AND QUIT CARING FOR THEM AT THE WORKING MANS EXPENSE AND THE PROBLEM WOULD BE SOLVED.

 SHOW ME LIBERALS THAT HAVE THESE IDEALS.I DO VOLUNTEER THANK YOU.
THIS IS ALL DONE BY U.S LIBERALS AND THE U.N.

[hunter399]

No way should tax payer pay to clean up ,this should of been taken care of at the time they where camping there,so many people turning a blind eye is costing us a lot more in the long run , and I have better things to do than cleaning up after them.like working a full-time job,something these bums should think about.

[bigtex]

Until "WE" stop buying into their BS they will continue to lie and do shady crap behind our backs.   


Bout done in Wa!  Way better places to hunt.

If you owned land and a homeless camp needed to be removed from it, who do you think would be responsible for the bill?

Expense falls on the landowner. Even if the offender is caught and convicted it is up to the judge to decide if they should pay restitution for clean up costs.

[Oh Mah]

Show me a homeless adult that is a decent citizen and it might change my outlook
(a decent person would pick up after themselves when they left),From where i see it the homeless adult is homeless because of the choices made by them.DRUGS AND OTHER CRIMES.I am a vet and i cannot see in any way that a vet without being an addict or other type of criminal is homeless.

[hunter399]

Well ya I'm not picking up needles and beer bottles ,why do you think they bull dozed it

[Oh Mah]

Homeless people are homeless and have no place to go for a reason,nobody wants them.NOT EVEN MOM DAD AUNT UNCLE BROTHER SISTER COUSIN............BECAUSE OF THE REASONS STATED ABOVE.

[EmeraldBullet]

Lots of them are that way, Oh Mah. However, there are lot's of decent homeless people that are where they are out of circumstance. Many of them have no family. Many of them are disabled. Many of them are vets like you. I know many homeless that do clean up after themselves. Not sure where you live but I would love to introduce you to some. Come out with me on a Tuesday night in Everett with the church group I am a part of. I think you would learn a lot. Anyone could become homeless in reality.

Like I said before, I agree with you that the liberals are a big part of the problem. But doing nothing is not a solution. If you see a problem do something directly to fix it, volunteer. Was you post in all caps supposed to be you yelling at me? LOL

[Oh Mah]

If they are disabled they could go live in any nursing,adult family or assisted living place in the country (unless they are bad people that these outfits don't want.Like i said before, There is no reason except as i have mentioned for this.If the vet is over a certain age no problem.If a vet is disabled no problem if a vet is just another drain for no reason other than not wanting to work well then that vet falls in with the other category.There is no rational way for you to spin it.