Should ALL general season Elk hunts be canceled in favor of permit only hunting?

[chester]

I really don't think it would do any damage herd wise. It would cut down on the bulls the lucky few draw for or pay big money 💰 for.  Might even cut back on some of the motivation for the natives to head hunt. May even increase hunter recruitment since they have a "chance" at a big bull.
I'm nit seeing a downside to the idea.

[Oh Mah]

ok,lets say we got rid of the 3 point or better deer to a any buck deer state wide what would that do to the deer population?

[Oh Mah]

that being said how many spike 2 point or 3 point do you see when hunting? honestly

[chester]

I'm failing to see the comparison. Any bull was never suggested.

But to follow your question you'd probably see a ton of younger bucks killed. If there was no doe harvest? You'd still continte see the age class of deer killed decline. There would still be big bucks but they are smarter and would probably be in the not so easy to access area.

[bobcat]

Let's also get rid of the pick east or west, but make the seasons the same so guys can only hunt one or the other.

[chester]

that being said how many spike 2 point or 3 point do you see when hunting? honestly

Deer or elk? Well the answer for both is a lot. East side deer can turn up a dozen spikes and two points a day.
West side elk had days where I've seen a dozen spike elk in mf season . A few with splits up top as well.
All I usually see while hunting is one 3pt and head home with it.

[JimmyHoffa]

that being said how many spike 2 point or 3 point do you see when hunting? honestly

Usually quite a few spikes and 2s.  The later in the year less and less 3s and above.  But most spikes and 2s and small raghorns still run with the herd full time.

[Oh Mah]

elk is what i meant,here on the e-side i don't see many 2 3 points at all.the comparison-no, no one said any bull.but if it was 3 point or better i do see a few bulls 5 6 points every year so i guess i would get a bull every year and if its the same for a lot of others then a lot of bulls would get taken that usually don't therefore the elk get reduced by that amount,i say no leave it alone for reasons already stated and if i am wrong then let someone like BIGTEX come on this thread and set us all straight.

[Oh Mah]

with facts

[emac]

I know the Nez Perce would love the 5 PT minimum....just saying

No they wouldn't. That would be to much competition for them. It would cut down drastically on the big bulls they can take out of the blues

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[bosifus]

With spike only it is already special permit now. I am not one for taking the general away however because its a family tradition that would likely get broken up for quite a few camps and nobody wants to see that.

[JeffRaines]

Maybe keep it OTC but put it on a 'cooldown' type system where you can only hunt every say... three years? Break it up by last name. Theoretically you'd only have 1/3rd the amount of people in the woods. This would also fix the 'family tradition' issue as there would surely be two or so tag holders every year for camp. Maybe with this lift the east/west restriction. I'd be willing to bet the quality of hunting would go up, everyone would be guaranteed to draw every three years so no worrying about points and not getting drawn.

Keep the current special permits. If you draw on an off year it doesn't reset your cooldown.

[TommyH]

NO!!!! 

[PA BEN]

 

NO!!!!

[cryder]

And there you have it !!!!  Just like i said years ago !!  We all meet at the end of the last existing trail wodering were all the critters went , they tell us to relinquish our tags , licenses , social security cards , weapons , cash , controlled substances , parking permits ,  hunting rights , and anything else that resembles freedom , and for more money than we can spend we get a two day g.p.s. tracked permit to walk around a little bit untill our vehicle is towed by the slacked jawed yokle you met at the gate cuz you didnt register your tag number with fish n brokers new union master hunter legisletion unit created by that hick chick watress at coulee dam general store on christmas eve like listed in the new hunters law book published by Trumps excecutive new law and order , so he can track your every profitable motions !!  Whew ! that was very mind draining ill c u next week !