Nipple exposed to the elements

[HoofsandWings]

I was at the range today and talk about pushing the envelope for nipple exposure.
I saw one today that had a square hole above the nipple that you can cover with a quarter. A piece of tape would be all that was needed to keep the elements out.

[Magnum_Willys]

Vortek strike fire is like that. Lil bit of camo tape seals completely. That with balloon over muzzle and good for all day in the rain. Not sure if allowed during muzzy only seasons but works great rest of the time.

[Stein]

The game warden at my son’s hunter ed class said he would ticked taped smoke poles.  They have to be open.


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[Bob33]

The game warden at my son’s hunter ed class said he would ticked taped smoke poles.  They have to be open.


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I believe he is wrong. Tape is not an "integral part of the weapon proper."

(a) Ignition is to be wheel lock, matchlock, flintlock, or percussion using original style percussion caps that fit on the nipple and are exposed to the weather. "Exposed to the weather" means the percussion cap or the frizzen must be visible and not capable of being enclosed by an integral part of the weapon proper."

[j_h_nimrod]

The regs are a bit ambiguous and could be interpreted (incorrectly) to mean you can't tape over the opening for cap. I have not delved into the WAC to see if the rule is more clearly defined there. It pisses me off when gamies decide to interpret the laws however they want.

Taped at the coffee stand means there is probably a cap in there an that is illegal.

[Bob33]

The regs are a bit ambiguous and could be interpreted (incorrectly) to mean you can't tape over the opening for cap. I have not delved into the WAC to see if the rule is more clearly defined there. It pisses me off when gamies decide to interpret the laws however they want.

Taped at the coffee stand means there is probably a cap in there an that is illegal.

I quoted the WAC. 

[adamR]

The game warden at my son’s hunter ed class said he would ticked taped smoke poles.  They have to be open.


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I believe he is wrong. Tape is not an "integral part of the weapon proper."

(a) Ignition is to be wheel lock, matchlock, flintlock, or percussion using original style percussion caps that fit on the nipple and are exposed to the weather. "Exposed to the weather" means the percussion cap or the frizzen must be visible and not capable of being enclosed by an integral part of the weapon proper."

Wouldn't the "must be visible" portion be violated with a piece of tape?  Maybe that's how he justifies giving the ticket?

[Zuus]

So if I hide my rifle under my poncho when it rains, it is not visible anymore and therefore ticketable? I'm thinking NO, but according to the strict gamie it is.

[Jellymon]

The game warden at my son’s hunter ed class said he would ticked taped smoke poles.  They have to be open.


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I believe he is wrong. Tape is not an "integral part of the weapon proper."

(a) Ignition is to be wheel lock, matchlock, flintlock, or percussion using original style percussion caps that fit on the nipple and are exposed to the weather. "Exposed to the weather" means the percussion cap or the frizzen must be visible and not capable of being enclosed by an integral part of the weapon proper."

Wouldn't the "must be visible" portion be violated with a piece of tape?  Maybe that's how he justifies giving the ticket?

Using Scotch tape it would still be visible.   

[JimmyHoffa]

So if I hide my rifle under my poncho when it rains, it is not visible anymore and therefore ticketable? I'm thinking NO, but according to the strict gamie it is.

He'll probably write you up for concealed long gun. 

[Sabotloader]

We have covered this a couple of times and somebody even contacted the 0ffice for Washington Fish and Wildlife

If when the gun locked, loaded, and ready to fire - no integral part of the rifle is covering the nipple.  If a hunter chooses to use a cover of some form it is legal as is not a integral part of the rifle.

This is legal





Even if the wrap were black tape.

If someone better than I wanted to use the search feature - they probably could find the post that quoted the State Official.  Many printed the information to carry in the field.

[huntnfmly]

 

[Zuus]

I like it!

[JDHasty]

We have covered this a couple of times and somebody even contacted the Chief LEO for Washington

If when the gun locked, loaded, and ready to fire - no integral part of the rifle is covering the nipple.  If a hunter chooses to use a cover of some form it is legal as is not a integral part of the rifle.

This is legal





Even if the wrap were black tape

Yes it is.  I forwarded that photo to WDFW and this is their response:

 On Monday, March 27, 2017 9:09 AM, Reportpoaching (DFW) <poaching@dfw.wa.gov> wrote:


Mr. Hasty-
 
I spoke with multiple officers and we came to the consensus that yes that would be legal because the tape isn’t considered an integral part of the weapon proper. Therefore it falls out of the verbiage described in the hunting pamphlet.
 
Good luck hunting!
 
Thank you,
Lexie

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I made a PDF of the email and posted it here for others to carry a copy when we discussed this back in March. 

[Sabotloader]

Thank you JDHasty

I knew it was out there someplace