Hot tent options??

[Tbob]

Hey all,
I'm about to pull the trigger on a tent/stove combo for backpacking and hike in hunts.. So far I think I'm going with a Bearpaw Wilderness Design Luna 6 pyramid style tipi shelter and a lightoutdoors 18inch standard TI cylinder stove. This will be for packing in the summer (scouting) and hunts between Sept-Dec in WA and possibly ID and MT. This will be for 2 guys and a possible 3rd from time to time. I was told by the tent maker that there will be "plenty of room for 3 guys/gear/and stove".. The stove guy says I'll be lucky to get three guys and a stove in there and little to no gear.. He said it's doable, but will be really cramped..
   I was hoping to hear from some of you more experienced guys with hot tents about this combo and space. This is my first time with this type of set up and for the money I'm going to spend I'd like to just do it just once..
  Any thoughts, opinions and advise are all welcome.. Thanks!!

[Stein]

Listen to the stove guy.  When you put a stove in a tent, it eats up a ton of area because you can't have people or gear near it.  I just spent a weekend in a 4 man tent with a Mr. Heater by myself and it was semi-cramped.  I couldn't have fit two guys and gear.

If I am considering a tent just for weight, I go small and suffer in the tent.  For comfort, go bigger and suffer on the trail. 

[dreadi]

 We have a 12x14 tent with a stove. Two people + gear + cooking space = full. We had a rack for clothes to dry and standing space to do change clothes move things as needed. This year we are bringing a 10x10 to cook in.

[kselkhunter]

Looking at the specs on that model online, the stove guy is likely correct.  But, you could always pack a tarp just in case and put gear under the tarp and keep humans and stove in the tent.   





 


 

[vandeman17]

I have a megatarp and stove. 2 people is about as many as I would want to do in there, especially with the stove since you can't put gear next to it. I would consider your choice of tent and stove as a 2 man max. 

[X-Force]

Ive run the Kifaru Tut and Sawtooth and they both have had enough room for 2 guys/gear/stove. I don't see an issue with a 6 man Tipi but the Luna looks pretty small for a 6 man (6' tall 10x10 floor) Seek Outside's 6 man is 7'10" tall and 14' diameter.

Seek Outside 4 man is 6' 10" tall and 11' 10" diameter.

[jackelope]

It's always seemed to me that a stove in a backpack tent eliminates about half of the usable tent floor space. My guess is that in order for a tent to fit 3 guys, gear and a stove, it would have to be enormous.
I have a GoLite SL5(5 man? 9.5'x9.5' 6'-ish tall) and have done some research regarding putting a stove in it and it becomes a 2 person/some gear tent at that point. Really it's good for 3 guys and moderate backpacking gear without a stove and that's a squeeze.
 

[whacker1]

i have a 6 man seekoutside tipi w/Smith Cylinder stove from Kifaru.  It is perfect for 3 guys, gear, and stove if you have a nice flat spot to set up in.  However, it is beyond comfortable for 2 guys, because you have so much space- standing room, cook yourself out to dry, etc.

less than 7.5lbs total including carbon pole, stove, stakes + a couple extra stakes.  perfect for splitting gear.  1 guy carries the tent and the other guy carries the stove, stakes, and pole. 3.75 lbs each.  Great for long stays.

I still take a 2 man dome tent if it is for 2 nighters.

[Tbob]

Just what I was looking for guys! Thanks so much!

[Bushcraft]

Some of the stoves out there - and I'm operating from the viewpoint of using nearly every sized Kifaru stove and some homemade, are akin to backcountry nuclear reactors.  If you stoke them up to the point were they are actually working they put out a lot of heat.  And 8-man with a large is a great combo, whereas a 6-man with a large stove ripping along will have everyone demanding both doors be opened wide and will come home from the trip with a very nice tan. 

Bottom line, you've got to get the right stove output for the shelter size.

[jrebel]

I spent last weekend in a 10x10 with two other guys......no way the stove would have fit and we had very minimal gear. 

[kselkhunter]

Some of the stoves out there - and I'm operating from the viewpoint of using nearly every sized Kifaru stove and some homemade, are akin to backcountry nuclear reactors.  If you stoke them up to the point were they are actually working they put out a lot of heat.  And 8-man with a large is a great combo, whereas a 6-man with a large stove ripping along will have everyone demanding both doors be opened wide and will come home from the trip with a very nice tan. 

Bottom line, you've got to get the right stove output for the shelter size.

I have the Seek Outside 8 man tipi with XL stove that I bought as the bundle from their website, and I have had the stove heat cranked up so high I had to strip down layers and open the doors.   Granted those titanium stoves don't hold heat long overnight, but are great for getting stoked fast to dry clothes out.   

[whacker1]

Some of the stoves out there - and I'm operating from the viewpoint of using nearly every sized Kifaru stove and some homemade, are akin to backcountry nuclear reactors.  If you stoke them up to the point were they are actually working they put out a lot of heat.  And 8-man with a large is a great combo, whereas a 6-man with a large stove ripping along will have everyone demanding both doors be opened wide and will come home from the trip with a very nice tan. 

Bottom line, you've got to get the right stove output for the shelter size.

Yes, I have the smith cylinder in a medium.  it will still cook you out, but not as quickly as some of the larger stoves.

[Tbob]

Anyone have any experience with the seekoutdoors Redcliff?? Looks like a better option than the Luna 6 for size at least? Little more spendy, but I'd rather buy once and cry once than get something I won't be happy with.. So now with all the discussion I'm liking then SO 6 man tipi or the Redcliff option.. Just want to make sure I've got the room for the stove and three guys with some gear if possible.. Really don't want to have to bump up to the 8 man tipi if I don't have to... And thanks so much for all the discussion! Glad i posted about this and now have a better idea of what to expect!

[kselkhunter]

The guys joining me on this year's elk hunt use the Redcliff and like it. Not sure how much they're on this site, but will probably chime in if they see this thread.  If you are set on accommodating 3 guys, gear, an stove the 6 man tipi is 18sq ft bigger and a foot taller for more headroom.