Hunter Orange

[bobcat]

Thank you Boneaddict for using the word "accident" instead of "incident."   

Nice dig, BC. The word incident is purposely used in Hunter Education. Accidents are for the most part considered unavoidable. "Accidental" shootings, on the other hand, are completely avoidable if you always follow safety rules for firearm handling.

I know, I know. But it still annoys me. Use the word "accident" and everyone knows what you're talking about. An incident could be just about anything at all.

[cbond3318]

The government also tells us we cant poop in buckets and store it in the front yard.

That doesn’t bother me either.

[Rainier10]

As an instructor it has been drilled into me to use the word incident not accident.

Same as using the word firearm, muzzleloader, bow or crossbow and not weapon.

I had to suppress my military training when it was a weapon and not a gun.  You know, one is for killing and one is for fun?

Not saying weapon anymore was/is the toughest one to get used to saying in class.  Those drill sargents really drilled that one in good.

[Curly]

Let me ask this question:  What is so wrong with the state letting the individual decide what color clothing to wear?

If someone wishes to risk wearing camo clothing and potentially getting accidentally shot, why should the government care?  Just about every state has hunter education requirements and they teach about how orange will help protect you from an accidental shooting, so why not let the individual make that decision?

 

[JimmyHoffa]

Thank you Boneaddict for using the word "accident" instead of "incident."   

Nice dig, BC. The word incident is purposely used in Hunter Education. Accidents are for the most part considered unavoidable. "Accidental" shootings, on the other hand, are completely avoidable if you always follow safety rules for firearm handling.

I know, I know. But it still annoys me. Use the word "accident" and everyone knows what you're talking about. An incident could be just about anything at all.

The word 'accident' bothers me.  It removes responsibility from the offender.  If your sling breaks and the rifle falls and shoots someone then yeah, an accident.  If you pull a trigger and shoot someone in a brown coat digging some mushrooms, pure negligence--not accidental.

[Rainier10]

Let me ask this question:  What is so wrong with the state letting the individual decide what color clothing to wear?

If someone wishes to risk wearing camo clothing and potentially getting accidentally shot, why should the government care?  Just about every state has hunter education requirements and they teach about how orange will help protect you from an accidental shooting, so why not let the individual make that decision?

 

The same reason they make you wear a seatbelt which I seldom do.  Also the reason they make motorcyclists in Washington wear helmets.  When I was in Colorado it wasn't required by state law but the military required me to wear one.  When on base I did, off base I didn't always wear one.

But I always wear hunter orange.

Funny the rules that we choose to follow and the ones that we choose to not follow.

[bobcat]

Thank you Boneaddict for using the word "accident" instead of "incident."   

Nice dig, BC. The word incident is purposely used in Hunter Education. Accidents are for the most part considered unavoidable. "Accidental" shootings, on the other hand, are completely avoidable if you always follow safety rules for firearm handling.

I know, I know. But it still annoys me. Use the word "accident" and everyone knows what you're talking about. An incident could be just about anything at all.

The word 'accident' bothers me.  It removes responsibility from the offender.  If your sling breaks and the rifle falls and shoots someone then yeah, an accident.  If you pull a trigger and shoot someone in a brown coat digging some mushrooms, pure negligence--not accidental.

I understand but even if negligent it's still an accident.

[pianoman9701]

Let me ask this question:  What is so wrong with the state letting the individual decide what color clothing to wear?

If someone wishes to risk wearing camo clothing and potentially getting accidentally shot, why should the government care?  Just about every state has hunter education requirements and they teach about how orange will help protect you from an accidental shooting, so why not let the individual make that decision?

 

Because they want it to be the safest sport possible to continue garnering public support when such a small portion of the population hunts (less than 4% in WA). Pictures of little Timmy taken at the 6th grade Christmas play in a story about his demise at the hand of his father in the woods doesn't help our heritage. Along with all the other news which paints gun ownership in such a horrible light, it benefits us to keep the numbers of incidents/accidents as low as possible.

[ballpark]

So here's my story this year hunting in 329.

Opening morning, all stoked to hunt the elusive "true" spike, actually can't wait until Wednesday to hunt on the wind farm which we did with success

So opening morning I'm sitting just inside the tree line discouraged by the # of hunters I've seen, when I spot 2 guys making their way towards me.  I have a solid blaze orange ball cap and vest on and assume they see me.  They keep coming closer and closer to within 10' when the lead guy says "OH SH--, I didn't see you, sorry, how's the hunting going" to which I just shake my head and turn around. 

Sometimes it doesn't matter what you're wearing but I will continue to wear the vest, even in Idaho where it's not required.

[3nails]

 I wear it to be legal. In Idaho I wear it only in certain situations like dragging out a deer, coming out after dark, etc.
 Now for my humble opinion on the safety aspect. If you drove to your hunting spot, smoke cigarettes, drink pop, eat fast food, work outside of an office, or any other activity or habit that is at least 100x more likely to kill you than getting accidentally shot I think you have greater concerns. Also, if it is about public safety, why aren't hikers, bike riders, etc also required to wear it?

[Igor]

What I find amusing about people refusing to wear hunter orange is the fact that so few hunters are aware that deer really cannot see orange.  The results of a lot of testing have proven that.  And, one color that they absolutely see best is blue.  How many deer hunters do you see every year hunting in blue jeans?  When I mention that fact to people I see wearing jeans in the field, the response is usually along the lines........"I've always worn blue jeans when I hunt and I've shot a lot of deer".

[emac]

I dont like to wear it but i do. I dont like wearing the vest so i just bought a comfortable orange hoodie amd it doesnt seem to bother me as much. But if i had the choice i wouldnt wear it all

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[X-Force]

If it were really a safety issue, wouldn't EVERY user group be required to wear it? 

I think in high trafficked areas during modern season it should be required for every user group; hikers, joggers, etc.

Only about half of the hunters I see in the woods during modern have hunter orange on. It seems the farther you are from a road the less people where it.

[Curly]

Let me ask this question:  What is so wrong with the state letting the individual decide what color clothing to wear?

If someone wishes to risk wearing camo clothing and potentially getting accidentally shot, why should the government care?  Just about every state has hunter education requirements and they teach about how orange will help protect you from an accidental shooting, so why not let the individual make that decision?

 

Because they want it to be the safest sport possible to continue garnering public support when such a small portion of the population hunts (less than 4% in WA). Pictures of little Timmy taken at the 6th grade Christmas play in a story about his demise at the hand of his father in the woods doesn't help our heritage. Along with all the other news which paints gun ownership in such a horrible light, it benefits us to keep the numbers of incidents/accidents as low as possible.

  I like that answer. 

[trophyhunt]

What I find amusing about people refusing to wear hunter orange is the fact that so few hunters are aware that deer really cannot see orange.  The results of a lot of testing have proven that.  And, one color that they absolutely see best is blue.  How many deer hunters do you see every year hunting in blue jeans?  When I mention that fact to people I see wearing jeans in the field, the response is usually along the lines........"I've always worn blue jeans when I hunt and I've shot a lot of deer".

They may not see colors but they definetly pick out solids way easier than broken patterns.  When I do wear orange it’s only the camo orange, but if I kill something and it needs packed out, I put solid orange on it.