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By "at least 122" they really mean 400?
What about the new pack the tribe documented. Wasn’t there just a press release on that one. I know I saw a thread. I don’t see that one listed.
Quote from: northwesthunter84 on March 16, 2018, 08:25:44 PMWhat about the new pack the tribe documented. Wasn’t there just a press release on that one. I know I saw a thread. I don’t see that one listed. Hard to believe with as many sightings as there seems to be, that there's only 122+-.That's a lot of country for that small of #, and that many sightings
I don’t see how there is all this negativity when we haven’t seen the report yet. Minimum populations are just that minimum. The actual population is probably substantially higher... But it’s not the job of biologists to give you assumed or possible populations. The $400k wdfw is spending on a conflict manager could really pay dividends in wolf documentation and monitoring.
Quote from: X-Force on March 17, 2018, 08:14:32 AMI dont see how there is all this negativity when we havent seen the report yet. Minimum populations are just that minimum. The actual population is probably substantially higher... But its not the job of biologists to give you assumed or possible populations. The $400k wdfw is spending on a conflict manager could really pay dividends in wolf documentation and monitoring.Biologist down play the impact on game herds, refuse to confirm wolf predation on livestock and have a lot of input on wolf recovery, much of the disinformation on wolves comes from biologists. According to fitkin the lookout pack was the only pack in the Okanogan for several years, even though he knew of other packs in the Okanogan.The $$$ payed to the "conflict manager" is a waste of money. The whole wolf introduction into WA is a waste of $, unless you work for WDFW or the fake environmentalists concerning wolves.
I dont see how there is all this negativity when we havent seen the report yet. Minimum populations are just that minimum. The actual population is probably substantially higher... But its not the job of biologists to give you assumed or possible populations. The $400k wdfw is spending on a conflict manager could really pay dividends in wolf documentation and monitoring.
Quote from: wolfbait on March 17, 2018, 02:28:37 PMQuote from: X-Force on March 17, 2018, 08:14:32 AMI don’t see how there is all this negativity when we haven’t seen the report yet. Minimum populations are just that minimum. The actual population is probably substantially higher... But it’s not the job of biologists to give you assumed or possible populations. The $400k wdfw is spending on a conflict manager could really pay dividends in wolf documentation and monitoring.Biologist down play the impact on game herds, refuse to confirm wolf predation on livestock and have a lot of input on wolf recovery, much of the disinformation on wolves comes from biologists. According to fitkin the lookout pack was the only pack in the Okanogan for several years, even though he knew of other packs in the Okanogan.The $$$ payed to the "conflict manager" is a waste of money. The whole wolf introduction into WA is a waste of $, unless you work for WDFW or the fake environmentalists concerning wolves.Once again, wolves were not introduced into WA.
Quote from: X-Force on March 17, 2018, 08:14:32 AMI don’t see how there is all this negativity when we haven’t seen the report yet. Minimum populations are just that minimum. The actual population is probably substantially higher... But it’s not the job of biologists to give you assumed or possible populations. The $400k wdfw is spending on a conflict manager could really pay dividends in wolf documentation and monitoring.Biologist down play the impact on game herds, refuse to confirm wolf predation on livestock and have a lot of input on wolf recovery, much of the disinformation on wolves comes from biologists. According to fitkin the lookout pack was the only pack in the Okanogan for several years, even though he knew of other packs in the Okanogan.The $$$ payed to the "conflict manager" is a waste of money. The whole wolf introduction into WA is a waste of $, unless you work for WDFW or the fake environmentalists concerning wolves.
If no one knows for sure then no one should be saying it happened.... Right?
I'm puzzled how WDFW can manage wolf populations and make them grow, but they can't manage deer/elk.
Quote from: Taco280AI on March 16, 2018, 06:55:07 PMBy "at least 122" they really mean 400? I believe they're outright lying to the public.
Why can't they simply give an estimated population? Couldn't they simply state "we know for sure there are X amount of wolves, but realistically there are probably Y amount".Seems like people kind of look past that word "minimum" and freak out claiming lies by WDFW, when they maybe aren't really lying........ Also, why not mangage based on an estimate? They know the counts aren't right and are minimum. Maybe they should revise the wolf plan and delist knowing that they likely have met the objective?
Quote from: Curly on March 19, 2018, 09:03:18 AMWhy can't they simply give an estimated population? Couldn't they simply state "we know for sure there are X amount of wolves, but realistically there are probably Y amount".Seems like people kind of look past that word "minimum" and freak out claiming lies by WDFW, when they maybe aren't really lying........ Also, why not mangage based on an estimate? They know the counts aren't right and are minimum. Maybe they should revise the wolf plan and delist knowing that they likely have met the objective? I think this minimum represents the number they can verify in case they have to go to court.