New Wolf Numbers

[X-Force]

I don’t see how there is all this negativity when we haven’t seen the report yet. Minimum populations are just that minimum. The actual population is probably substantially higher... But it’s not the job of biologists to give you assumed or possible populations.

The $400k wdfw is spending on a conflict manager could really pay dividends in wolf documentation and monitoring.

[Ridgeratt]

I am surprised that they would recognize the Togo pack since it is that close to Canada. They used to be transient packs and didn't count. Looks like the Leadpoint pack is just east of Onion Creek.

[wolfbait]

I don’t see how there is all this negativity when we haven’t seen the report yet. Minimum populations are just that minimum. The actual population is probably substantially higher... But it’s not the job of biologists to give you assumed or possible populations.

The $400k wdfw is spending on a conflict manager could really pay dividends in wolf documentation and monitoring.

Biologist down play the impact on game herds, refuse to confirm wolf predation on livestock and have a lot of input on wolf recovery, much of the disinformation on wolves comes from biologists.

 According to fitkin the lookout pack was the only pack in the Okanogan for several years, even though he knew of other packs in the Okanogan.

The $$$ payed to the "conflict manager" is a waste of money. The whole wolf introduction into WA is a waste of $, unless you work for WDFW or the fake environmentalists concerning wolves.

[WAcoyotehunter]

I don’t see how there is all this negativity when we haven’t seen the report yet. Minimum populations are just that minimum. The actual population is probably substantially higher... But it’s not the job of biologists to give you assumed or possible populations.

The $400k wdfw is spending on a conflict manager could really pay dividends in wolf documentation and monitoring.

Biologist down play the impact on game herds, refuse to confirm wolf predation on livestock and have a lot of input on wolf recovery, much of the disinformation on wolves comes from biologists.

 According to fitkin the lookout pack was the only pack in the Okanogan for several years, even though he knew of other packs in the Okanogan.

The $$$ payed to the "conflict manager" is a waste of money. The whole wolf introduction into WA is a waste of $, unless you work for WDFW or the fake environmentalists concerning wolves.

Once again, wolves were not introduced into WA.

[bigmacc]

I don’t see how there is all this negativity when we haven’t seen the report yet. Minimum populations are just that minimum. The actual population is probably substantially higher... But it’s not the job of biologists to give you assumed or possible populations.

The $400k wdfw is spending on a conflict manager could really pay dividends in wolf documentation and monitoring.

Biologist down play the impact on game herds, refuse to confirm wolf predation on livestock and have a lot of input on wolf recovery, much of the disinformation on wolves comes from biologists.

 According to fitkin the lookout pack was the only pack in the Okanogan for several years, even though he knew of other packs in the Okanogan.

The $$$ payed to the "conflict manager" is a waste of money. The whole wolf introduction into WA is a waste of $, unless you work for WDFW or the fake environmentalists concerning wolves.

Once again, wolves were not introduced into WA.

With all do respect WAcoyotehunter, no one really knows for sure, but one thing that is for sure,  they are here and are being well taken care of, something just isn't right......as always, my 
 

[WAcoyotehunter]

If no one knows for sure then no one should be saying it happened.... Right?

[X-Force]

If no one knows for sure then no one should be saying it happened.... Right?

 

When discussing wolves if no one knows for sure it probably happened.

[Cougartail]

Well we sure know they didn't come across the Canadian/US border.That would be illogical as our Elk are not nearly as tasty as Canadian Elk..

[wheels]

22 packs but only 14 successful breeding pairs  seems little off

[STARVATION]

To many gay wolves out there?

[bearpaw]

I'm puzzled how WDFW can manage wolf populations and make them grow, but they can't manage deer/elk.   

For the last couple decades they've had a love affair with predators, I've thought most game animals persist in spite of WDFW, not because of WDFW.   

[Skyvalhunter]

Well its a whole new ball game now

[nwwanderer]

As we have all seen, contiguous habitat for a wolf is eastern Montana to the Skagit, northern California back to central British Columbia, they were certainly planted at a staggering cost.

[pianoman9701]

By "at least 122" they really mean 400?

  I believe they're outright lying to the public. 

[Curly]

Why can't they simply give an estimated population?  Couldn't they simply state "we know for sure there are X amount of wolves, but realistically there are probably Y amount".

Seems like people kind of look past that word "minimum" and freak out claiming lies by WDFW, when they maybe aren't really lying........

 

Also, why not mangage based on an estimate?  They know the counts aren't right and are minimum.  Maybe they should revise the wolf plan and delist knowing that they likely have met the objective?