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I just thought that was a funny example of a group I saw showing how modern days show modern changes in lifestyle. As far as teaching about ones past culture I do think that native americans as a whole are one of the best at teaching and attempting to keep a culture alive. Many other cultures have blended as a whole and lost there roots of past ancestrial ways.
Colville tribe received 53 million and future payments and Spokane tribe only received $4700 doesn't take a masters in math to see thats lopsided. I see nothing wrong with them being compisated fairly
Quote from: duckmen1 on April 10, 2018, 10:55:19 AMI just thought that was a funny example of a group I saw showing how modern days show modern changes in lifestyle. As far as teaching about ones past culture I do think that native americans as a whole are one of the best at teaching and attempting to keep a culture alive. Many other cultures have blended as a whole and lost there roots of past ancestrial ways.There's a generational gap that's affecting many Tribes. There's adults now that did not learn or want to learn from their parents and they're suffering from an identity crisis now.Now that they've decided to settle down and are being looked upon as elders and teachers they don't know what to do.A common mistake is not learning from one generation and passing along the same mistakes that generation has made. My parents made mistakes and did not learn some cultural/traditional skills that they should've as youth that they should've passed along to I and my siblings but they didn't. It had to come from grandparents. The generation I'm in has to deal with learning from grandparents and in some cases great grandparents. The affects are being felt now with our current youth and young adults. They believe because it's a Right we should and can exploit the Right to the verge of abuse and neglect.That's not how our ancestors thought and that's not how we are supposed to be taught but because some have chosen to forego teachings and not take the time to learn from our elders that are passing at a rapid rate there's knowledge that isn't being passed down, oral history that isn't being taught and you've witnessed it with the adults attempting to teach the fundamentals of building a teepee.I could go on at the disparity but I'll cut it short for now.
Quote from: huntnfmly on April 10, 2018, 11:25:49 AMColville tribe received 53 million and future payments and Spokane tribe only received $4700 doesn't take a masters in math to see thats lopsided. I see nothing wrong with them being compisated fairlyMy families ranch overlooked the Columbia, my grandpa used to spear burbot using a lantern in the bow of a boat before the dam went in. My dad remembers the salmon runs at Kettle Falls, he and my grandfather used to stop and trade with the Indians for salmon. My dad sat on the hill and watched crews cut the timber below the family ranch when they were putting in the dam. Yes, that certainly seems like a lopsided deal! As a third generation resident and with my kids and grandkids living in NE WA, my family has a five generation history here. I'm wondering when our 53 Million payout will come? We have not even received the first $4700!
Quote from: bearpaw on April 10, 2018, 01:14:41 PMQuote from: huntnfmly on April 10, 2018, 11:25:49 AMColville tribe received 53 million and future payments and Spokane tribe only received $4700 doesn't take a masters in math to see thats lopsided. I see nothing wrong with them being compisated fairlyMy families ranch overlooked the Columbia, my grandpa used to spear burbot using a lantern in the bow of a boat before the dam went in. My dad remembers the salmon runs at Kettle Falls, he and my grandfather used to stop and trade with the Indians for salmon. My dad sat on the hill and watched crews cut the timber below the family ranch when they were putting in the dam. Yes, that certainly seems like a lopsided deal! As a third generation resident and with my kids and grandkids living in NE WA, my family has a five generation history here. I'm wondering when our 53 Million payout will come? We have not even received the first $4700! Your 5 generation family and federally recognized tribes are apples and oranges...from a legal, ethical, and common sense view.
If you're saying we're all equal and should be to be considered "American" then you can keep it. My ancestors were all separate bands/tribes prior to being "Confederated" and we were still who we are prior to being considered "Americans" by the American Govt.So I should accept assimilation because you don't like it? No thanks. I'm proud of my service to this country, I'm proud of my service to my community and I'm proud of who I am, but if the line in the sand is drawn at being who I am and yet again having my peoples identity stripped away again and being forced to be "American" then I'm going to do what I do and defend my people, my family and be who I am and not who you want me to be.
I don't support a settlement or reparations of any kind. I do support a fish ladder or some way (other than dam removal) to get fish past the dam. “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.”All NA's should be thankful that we won and not the British, France or Russia. No country to my knowledge allows as much rights to a conquered indigenous people as America does. Not even Canada.
There seems to be a tribal movement, I've had friends for years and years who are NA...and in the last handful of years they've gone full tribal pride posting meme's galore on FB until I had to unfollow them. They post this white hate crap on FB, but then when I see them they're all nice and friendly like normal but in my mind I just see all those meme's they just posted
Nobody alive today had any hand in what happened, but as a country we can decide to let it go or try to make it right at some level. We took something that didn't belong to us, built a dam and profited for several generations on the use of the river and land. The proposal amounts to a cost of about 7 cents per US citizen (23/330). I'm fine with that.
A young man in AlaskAmerican at times and Indian at times but no hate.
Quote from: Stein on April 10, 2018, 04:58:52 PMNobody alive today had any hand in what happened, but as a country we can decide to let it go or try to make it right at some level. We took something that didn't belong to us, built a dam and profited for several generations on the use of the river and land. The proposal amounts to a cost of about 7 cents per US citizen (23/330). I'm fine with that.exactly, but say we do pay the NA's how long before the blacks get paid?mexicans?chinese?japanese?Many Chinese were killed building our RR and Dams and they worked as slavesWe interred Japanese during WWIIWe took land from the mexicansThe list of grievances against the US is loooooong.
Quote from: Stein on April 10, 2018, 04:58:52 PMNobody alive today had any hand in what happened, but as a country we can decide to let it go or try to make it right at some level. We took something that didn't belong to us, built a dam and profited for several generations on the use of the river and land. The proposal amounts to a cost of about 7 cents per US citizen (23/330). I'm fine with that.What about Mexico We took land from them too, should we pay them as well??
Trophy, I don't doubt there's a few that do but for the most part those that I consider friends don't. If someone cant accept me for who I am then they should just keep it real and be honest with themselves. Don't put on a face and try to be friends just say it and be real. I respect those that do just that. I've lost a lot of respect for some on here because they put on a face and acted like others wanted them to. When the reality was they didn't like me or what I stood for or represent.There's no skin off my d... if people don't like or care for what I've got to say. There's no sleep lost here. I am who I am and nobody can take that away. I'll always be who I am and unlike the left liberal tree hugging bunny lovers I'm not going to parade it around and rub it in faces or March downtown for attention. That's not me.
Quote from: PlateauNDN on April 10, 2018, 06:16:56 PMTrophy, I don't doubt there's a few that do but for the most part those that I consider friends don't. If someone cant accept me for who I am then they should just keep it real and be honest with themselves. Don't put on a face and try to be friends just say it and be real. I respect those that do just that. I've lost a lot of respect for some on here because they put on a face and acted like others wanted them to. When the reality was they didn't like me or what I stood for or represent.There's no skin off my d... if people don't like or care for what I've got to say. There's no sleep lost here. I am who I am and nobody can take that away. I'll always be who I am and unlike the left liberal tree hugging bunny lovers I'm not going to parade it around and rub it in faces or March downtown for attention. That's not me.Right, but can't it go both ways? Can't people hate the reality of tribal hunting and fishing and you might accept them as they are?
Quote from: Odell on April 11, 2018, 12:21:00 PMQuote from: PlateauNDN on April 10, 2018, 06:16:56 PMTrophy, I don't doubt there's a few that do but for the most part those that I consider friends don't. If someone cant accept me for who I am then they should just keep it real and be honest with themselves. Don't put on a face and try to be friends just say it and be real. I respect those that do just that. I've lost a lot of respect for some on here because they put on a face and acted like others wanted them to. When the reality was they didn't like me or what I stood for or represent.There's no skin off my d... if people don't like or care for what I've got to say. There's no sleep lost here. I am who I am and nobody can take that away. I'll always be who I am and unlike the left liberal tree hugging bunny lovers I'm not going to parade it around and rub it in faces or March downtown for attention. That's not me.Right, but can't it go both ways? Can't people hate the reality of tribal hunting and fishing and you might accept them as they are?I do? Where have I ever said otherwise? Where have I ever singled out anyone or attacked them verbally? It's the other way around when it comes to that type of actions. I'll give respect if its given. Such as yourself Odell. You've spoken your peace on more than one occasion and made it clear where you stand. You didn't sugar coat it or attempt to appease anyone with your beliefs and views. I can respect that. I don't have to like it but I'll respect it. All I've ever asked is that when dealing with tribal issues focus on the individuals if it involves individuals. We all have our own beliefs, views, opinions, ethics, morals that we stand for and if we look at each other in that fashion how can you not respect that?