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I never heard of this guy until after he killed himself, and sorry to say I'm having trouble feeling any sympathy for a guy who hated President Trump, and said that if given the chance he would assassinate Trump by poisoning his food. Joke, or not, I don't find that funny, and from everything else I've read about him recently it's obvious he was a typical anti-American, liberal, just like pretty much everyone employed by CNN. Really surprised to see how many thought he was such a great person.
I don't minimize the effects of depression and those things that cause some to hurt themselves. But the huge increase in suicide in the last 20 years shows me that societal changes have had a lot to do with how people deal with challenge and struggle. At a time when fewer people are being murdered, crime is down, wars are taking fewer lives and our way of life is very good, something has to be causing this and I think a lot of it is emphasis on self and not community.
All that said, I'm not much moved by celebrity suicides, ODs, etc. I wish the media - and the VA -would pay as much attention to the ongoing epidemic of suicides among our veterans, to me a much larger cause for concern that does not get the attention it should.
Quote from: singleshot12 on June 10, 2018, 05:45:39 AMQuote from: KFhunter on June 09, 2018, 09:40:51 PMQuote from: Angry Perch on June 09, 2018, 09:26:57 PMQuote from: singleshot12 on June 09, 2018, 11:29:27 AMPeople that commit suicide simply have the "weak gene." and people that have the "strong gene" keep fighting till the bitter end. As the population grows expect to see the weak gene grow. Humans are a strange creature. And as with any species that over populate disease usually ends up controlling their numbers. For humans we have figured ways to combat disease. So war, genocide and suicide tend to take over. Wow...Insensitive comment from singleshot12, but there is kernel of truth to it. There is a genetic link that pre-dispositions some families to be more prone to this. I have a genetic predisposition to have high blood pressure and heart attacks so that's something I'll need to keep an eye on, other families have genetic predispositions to be obese, and other families have genetic predispositions to have high rates of cancer...and some have higher rates of suicide than other families, but I stop short of calling them "weak".Certainly wasn't meant to be insensitive. Since we were into the psychology behind suicide I was simply stating my opinion as to why. Strong people don't give up living.I never took it as insensitive, it’s a good point. And it seems more and more now days, honesty or ones opinion is taken as insensitive. Suicide is a weakness, especially more for those who have everything but chose the end as an option.
Quote from: KFhunter on June 09, 2018, 09:40:51 PMQuote from: Angry Perch on June 09, 2018, 09:26:57 PMQuote from: singleshot12 on June 09, 2018, 11:29:27 AMPeople that commit suicide simply have the "weak gene." and people that have the "strong gene" keep fighting till the bitter end. As the population grows expect to see the weak gene grow. Humans are a strange creature. And as with any species that over populate disease usually ends up controlling their numbers. For humans we have figured ways to combat disease. So war, genocide and suicide tend to take over. Wow...Insensitive comment from singleshot12, but there is kernel of truth to it. There is a genetic link that pre-dispositions some families to be more prone to this. I have a genetic predisposition to have high blood pressure and heart attacks so that's something I'll need to keep an eye on, other families have genetic predispositions to be obese, and other families have genetic predispositions to have high rates of cancer...and some have higher rates of suicide than other families, but I stop short of calling them "weak".Certainly wasn't meant to be insensitive. Since we were into the psychology behind suicide I was simply stating my opinion as to why. Strong people don't give up living.
Quote from: Angry Perch on June 09, 2018, 09:26:57 PMQuote from: singleshot12 on June 09, 2018, 11:29:27 AMPeople that commit suicide simply have the "weak gene." and people that have the "strong gene" keep fighting till the bitter end. As the population grows expect to see the weak gene grow. Humans are a strange creature. And as with any species that over populate disease usually ends up controlling their numbers. For humans we have figured ways to combat disease. So war, genocide and suicide tend to take over. Wow...Insensitive comment from singleshot12, but there is kernel of truth to it. There is a genetic link that pre-dispositions some families to be more prone to this. I have a genetic predisposition to have high blood pressure and heart attacks so that's something I'll need to keep an eye on, other families have genetic predispositions to be obese, and other families have genetic predispositions to have high rates of cancer...and some have higher rates of suicide than other families, but I stop short of calling them "weak".
Quote from: singleshot12 on June 09, 2018, 11:29:27 AMPeople that commit suicide simply have the "weak gene." and people that have the "strong gene" keep fighting till the bitter end. As the population grows expect to see the weak gene grow. Humans are a strange creature. And as with any species that over populate disease usually ends up controlling their numbers. For humans we have figured ways to combat disease. So war, genocide and suicide tend to take over. Wow...
People that commit suicide simply have the "weak gene." and people that have the "strong gene" keep fighting till the bitter end. As the population grows expect to see the weak gene grow. Humans are a strange creature. And as with any species that over populate disease usually ends up controlling their numbers. For humans we have figured ways to combat disease. So war, genocide and suicide tend to take over.
Quote from: trophyhunt on June 11, 2018, 11:34:44 AMQuote from: singleshot12 on June 10, 2018, 05:45:39 AMQuote from: KFhunter on June 09, 2018, 09:40:51 PMQuote from: Angry Perch on June 09, 2018, 09:26:57 PMQuote from: singleshot12 on June 09, 2018, 11:29:27 AMPeople that commit suicide simply have the "weak gene." and people that have the "strong gene" keep fighting till the bitter end. As the population grows expect to see the weak gene grow. Humans are a strange creature. And as with any species that over populate disease usually ends up controlling their numbers. For humans we have figured ways to combat disease. So war, genocide and suicide tend to take over. Wow...Insensitive comment from singleshot12, but there is kernel of truth to it. There is a genetic link that pre-dispositions some families to be more prone to this. I have a genetic predisposition to have high blood pressure and heart attacks so that's something I'll need to keep an eye on, other families have genetic predispositions to be obese, and other families have genetic predispositions to have high rates of cancer...and some have higher rates of suicide than other families, but I stop short of calling them "weak".Certainly wasn't meant to be insensitive. Since we were into the psychology behind suicide I was simply stating my opinion as to why. Strong people don't give up living.I never took it as insensitive, it’s a good point. And it seems more and more now days, honesty or ones opinion is taken as insensitive. Suicide is a weakness, especially more for those who have everything but chose the end as an option. Is the guy who deals with demons for years, or even decades, and finally makes the ultimate decision to kill the pain, weaker than the guy that never felt that kind of pain in the first place? All of us have been through pain and tragedy, but none of us can know what that pain feels like for someone else.
Quote from: bobcat on June 11, 2018, 11:44:01 AMI never heard of this guy until after he killed himself, and sorry to say I'm having trouble feeling any sympathy for a guy who hated President Trump, and said that if given the chance he would assassinate Trump by poisoning his food. Joke, or not, I don't find that funny, and from everything else I've read about him recently it's obvious he was a typical anti-American, liberal, just like pretty much everyone employed by CNN. Really surprised to see how many thought he was such a great person. I never really knew his political leanings, but enjoyed his shows. BTW - there is a conspiracy theory out there that says the Clinton's had him wacked.
Quote from: bobcat on June 11, 2018, 11:44:01 AMI never heard of this guy until after he killed himself, and sorry to say I'm having trouble feeling any sympathy for a guy who hated President Trump, and said that if given the chance he would assassinate Trump by poisoning his food. Joke, or not, I don't find that funny, and from everything else I've read about him recently it's obvious he was a typical anti-American, liberal, just like pretty much everyone employed by CNN. Really surprised to see how many thought he was such a great person. You seem to know a lot about someone you say you have never heard of?
Sorry Tony that you felt the need to end your life. All people have demons of some sort and deal with them in their own way. I don't think that arguing about it here is helping. He had enough, end of story. I don't know all the facts about his condition and wont judge.I do know that my mother had health problems that could not be overcome. She elected to end her's as she was so tired and coulden't fight any more. Selfish ? NO. She went out on her own terms. We were all aware however of her decision and with her at the end.The point is that we don't know everything about what his situation was. If you were diagnosed with something you knew was terminal and going to be extremely painful, would you head for your happy place in the hills or subject your family to watching you die a long painful death. I watched my grandfather go that way and I would bet if he had a clew how things would turn out, he would have headed for the hills.