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Temporary Disability?
« on: July 24, 2018, 08:24:37 AM »
I have a buddy who just got into hunting late last year and recently tore just about everything you can in your knee. Is there a process to become a temporary disabled hunter? Be great to get him on some animals if possible, even if it is in a very reduced capacity.

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Re: Temporary Disability?
« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2018, 08:29:25 AM »
No, there's no temporary disabled hunter status. If he gets his knee replaced he can get permanent disabled hunter status.
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Re: Temporary Disability?
« Reply #2 on: July 24, 2018, 09:42:45 AM »
No, there's no temporary disabled hunter status. If he gets his knee replaced he can get permanent disabled hunter status.

Would that only be if, after the replacement, there was still a significant disability?
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Re: Temporary Disability?
« Reply #3 on: July 24, 2018, 09:57:24 AM »
No, there's no temporary disabled hunter status. If he gets his knee replaced he can get permanent disabled hunter status.

Would that only be if, after the replacement, there was still a significant disability?

No. Any artificial limbs or joints qualify for permanent hunter disability.
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Re: Temporary Disability?
« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2018, 10:07:53 AM »
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Re: Temporary Disability?
« Reply #5 on: July 24, 2018, 10:12:31 AM »
No, there's no temporary disabled hunter status. If he gets his knee replaced he can get permanent disabled hunter status.

Would that only be if, after the replacement, there was still a significant disability?

No. Any artificial limbs or joints qualify for permanent hunter disability.

Interesting.  What qualifies as an artificial joint?  Total replacement?  Ligaments removed and replaced?

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Re: Temporary Disability?
« Reply #6 on: July 24, 2018, 10:50:07 AM »
Not great news but good to know.

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Re: Temporary Disability?
« Reply #7 on: July 24, 2018, 11:06:03 AM »
No, there's no temporary disabled hunter status. If he gets his knee replaced he can get permanent disabled hunter status.

Would that only be if, after the replacement, there was still a significant disability?

No. Any artificial limbs or joints qualify for permanent hunter disability.

Interesting.  What qualifies as an artificial joint?  Total replacement?  Ligaments removed and replaced?
I believe it needs to be a total replacement. But you could check with the department. I'm sure they'd be very forthcoming with info. They were very helpful to me.
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Re: Temporary Disability?
« Reply #8 on: July 24, 2018, 11:18:22 AM »
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Person with a disability” means a person who has a permanent physical disability or permanent developmental disability which substantially impairs their ability to participate in recreational activities or access department lands; and

Lower Extremity Qualification:

A person who has permanent non-operable physical lower extremity impairment and is not ambulatory over natural terrain without a lower extremity prosthesis, or must permanently use an MD medically prescribed assistive device every time for mobility, including, but not limited to, a wheelchair, walker, crutch, leg brace, oxygen bottle; or
Who have lost the use of one or both lower extremities, or
Who have a severe physical limitation in the use of one or both lower extremities, or
Who have a diagnosed permanent disease or disorder which substantially impairs or severely interferes with mobility.
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Re: Temporary Disability?
« Reply #9 on: July 24, 2018, 11:54:25 AM »
Hmmmmm. I got 100% total disability because of my knee, not replaced, and 25% whole body to go along with that.


The doctor has to fill out a form from the WDFW and send it in stating your disability. That's what mine did.. :dunno:
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Re: Temporary Disability?
« Reply #10 on: July 24, 2018, 01:34:41 PM »
Hmmmmm. I got 100% total disability because of my knee, not replaced, and 25% whole body to go along with that.


The doctor has to fill out a form from the WDFW and send it in stating your disability. That's what mine did.. :dunno:

Mine too. I didn't get a degree of disability though. I don't think they do it that way anymore. You either are or are not.
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Re: Temporary Disability?
« Reply #11 on: July 24, 2018, 06:18:56 PM »
Hmmmmm. I got 100% total disability because of my knee, not replaced, and 25% whole body to go along with that.


The doctor has to fill out a form from the WDFW and send it in stating your disability. That's what mine did.. :dunno:

Mine too. I didn't get a degree of disability though. I don't think they do it that way anymore. You either are or are not.



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Re: Temporary Disability?
« Reply #12 on: July 24, 2018, 07:39:11 PM »
Hmmm. I have to check into this more. I have both artificial hip and right elbow and I was told by a game warden that it required a significant degree of decrease in mobility.

Interesting

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Re: Temporary Disability?
« Reply #13 on: July 24, 2018, 08:46:45 PM »
Um, No.  Maybe later.
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Re: Temporary Disability?
« Reply #14 on: July 24, 2018, 08:51:40 PM »
Hmmm. I have to check into this more. I have both artificial hip and right elbow and I was told by a game warden that it required a significant degree of decrease in mobility.

Interesting

"A person who has permanent non-operable physical lower extremity impairment and is not ambulatory over natural terrain without a lower extremity prosthesis"

The warden got it wrong.  An artificial joint is a prosthesis. 
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Re: Temporary Disability?
« Reply #15 on: July 24, 2018, 09:17:28 PM »
Hmmmmm. I got 100% total disability because of my knee, not replaced, and 25% whole body to go along with that.


The doctor has to fill out a form from the WDFW and send it in stating your disability. That's what mine did.. :dunno:
I'm just taking a guess but that sounds military related, only place I know of that grades disabilities with percent.

To the op I was told that if its not military disability as long as you qualify for a permanent placard you can get disabled status.

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Re: Temporary Disability?
« Reply #16 on: July 24, 2018, 10:40:26 PM »
Really it all boils down to what your doctor thinks based on wdfw requirements. My father lost a few toes and now he cant walk very far so his mobility is limited. He got his disability card no problem.
There is a higher level of disability that qualifies you to have access to closed roads and certain areas but they expect you to be in a wheel chair and unable to walk.
Atleast that's how I understood it all.

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Re: Temporary Disability?
« Reply #17 on: July 25, 2018, 05:53:10 AM »
Hmmm. I have to check into this more. I have both artificial hip and right elbow and I was told by a game warden that it required a significant degree of decrease in mobility.

Interesting

"A person who has permanent non-operable physical lower extremity impairment and is not ambulatory over natural terrain without a lower extremity prosthesis"

The warden got it wrong.  An artificial joint is a prosthesis.

Yes, he was wrong. And once you have the designation, you're able to use any service available to disabled hunters in the state - Companion hunter, key access, special blinds, etc.
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Re: Temporary Disability?
« Reply #18 on: July 25, 2018, 05:55:46 PM »
Hmmm. I have to check into this more. I have both artificial hips and right elbow and I was told by a game warden that it required a significant degree of decrease in mobility.

Interesting

"A person who has permanent non-operable physical lower extremity impairment and is not ambulatory over natural terrain without a lower extremity prosthesis"

The warden got it wrong.  An artificial joint is a prosthesis.

Yes, he was wrong. And once you have the designation, you're able to use any service available to disabled hunters in the state - Companion hunter, key access, special blinds, etc.

Thank you for the information. I will get to looking into how to get this accomplished.

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Re: Temporary Disability?
« Reply #19 on: July 25, 2018, 07:24:06 PM »
Hmmmmm. I got 100% total disability because of my knee, not replaced, and 25% whole body to go along with that.


The doctor has to fill out a form from the WDFW and send it in stating your disability. That's what mine did.. :dunno:
I'm just taking a guess but that sounds military related, only place I know of that grades disabilities with percent.

To the op I was told that if its not military disability as long as you qualify for a permanent placard you can get disabled status.

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Re: Temporary Disability?
« Reply #20 on: July 27, 2018, 11:18:32 AM »
Would ankle fusion surgery qualify for the disability card?
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Would ankle fusion surgery qualify for the disability card?






I think it would. Does it limit your mobility and does your doctor agree with the WDFW questionnaire ?
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Re: Temporary Disability?
« Reply #22 on: July 27, 2018, 03:03:56 PM »
Definitely limits my mobility over ruff terrain. After a  day of hiking, I’m nursing a sore foot for a couple days for sure.
Haven’t gone that far with the doc and the questionnaire yet. Never thought I would qualify.
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Re: Temporary Disability?
« Reply #23 on: July 27, 2018, 03:29:50 PM »
Definitely limits my mobility over ruff terrain. After a  day of hiking, I’m nursing a sore foot for a couple days for sure.
Haven’t gone that far with the doc and the questionnaire yet. Never thought I would qualify.

I takes about 5 minutes to fill out. Make sure you sign and date it. Mail it to your doctor with a pre-addressed stamped envelope to the WDFW. Call him ahead of time to let him know what he needs to do. Once Olympia gets it, you'll know right away if you're qualified and they'll send you what you need. It sounds like you might qualify. There's zero reason not to at least apply.
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Re: Temporary Disability?
« Reply #24 on: August 22, 2018, 04:10:26 PM »
I faxed in my paperwork and it was approved the same day, this was for military disability, I recently broke my foot and had surgery, I can't put any weight on it for another two weeks, this will limit my hunting season,  and I reached out to get clarification, and all they told me was since this will be a permanent issue for me I would be eligible for all the benifits afforded disabled hunters on top of what I was already getting.
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Re: Temporary Disability?
« Reply #25 on: August 23, 2018, 06:40:12 AM »
I faxed in my paperwork and it was approved the same day, this was for military disability, I recently broke my foot and had surgery, I can't put any weight on it for another two weeks, this will limit my hunting season,  and I reached out to get clarification, and all they told me was since this will be a permanent issue for me I would be eligible for all the benifits afforded disabled hunters on top of what I was already getting.

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Re: Temporary Disability?
« Reply #26 on: October 21, 2018, 09:08:11 PM »
My 25% whole body was from LNI, So I don't know if that played a factor in it or not....... :dunno:
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