Big Win for the NRA!!!

[N7XW]

Give 'em an inch and they'll take a mile.

[bearpaw]

NRA Wins Lawsuit in Washington State, Prevents I-1639 From Appearing on Ballot
 
Fairfax, Va.—The Thurston County Superior Court today ruled in favor of the National Rifle Association and ordered a writ of mandamus to prevent I-1639 from appearing on the ballot. The judge agreed the signature sheets did not comply with state law – the font size was too small to be readable and didn't include strikethroughs.

“The National Rifle Association is glad to see the court today recognized how negligent, if not worse, gun control advocates were in their signature-gathering for this ill-advised ballot initiative,” said Chris W. Cox, executive director, NRA-ILA. “We got involved because I-1639 tramples on the rights of Washington state voters, and because the way these anti-gun activists went about pushing their agenda was egregious. We applaud this decision, and will remain vigilant in protecting the constitutional freedoms of all Americans.”

Among other things, I-1639;
• Creates a gun registry for any transfers of commonly owned semi-automatic rifles;
• Introduces a 10-business day waiting period on the purchase of semi-automatic rifles;
• Imposes criminal liability on otherwise law-abiding gun owners who fail to store their firearms to state standards;
• Increases the age limit to possess or purchase semi-automatic rifles from 18 to 21;
• Mandates training prior to purchase;
• And authorizes a $25 fee to be assessed to semiautomatic rifle purchasers.

The initiative proponents will likely appeal the decision to the state Supreme Court and we will continue to advocate on behalf of our law-abiding members in the Evergreen state.
 
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Established in 1871, the National Rifle Association is America's oldest civil rights and sportsmen's group. More than five million members strong, NRA continues to uphold the Second Amendment and advocates enforcement of existing laws against violent offenders to reduce crime. The Association remains the nation's leader in firearm education and training for law-abiding gun owners, law enforcement and the armed services. Be sure to follow the NRA on Facebook at NRA on Facebook and Twitter @NRA.

[bearpaw]

It takes money to fight the antis....

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[Special T]

It's nice that the NRA managed to take a break from hounding it's members for cash and funneling Russian money into the republican party to actually do its job.

NRA - A bar so low you could trip over it. Send money.

So then you like the Second Amendment foundation out of Bellevue, right? I get that you may not like the NRA, and I have mixed feelings, often because they make choices not to get involved when I think they should... if you dont like the NRA,  SAF has  a different focus on the same issue that should align with you if you have troubles with the NRA. 2c

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[baker5150]

It's nice that the NRA managed to take a break from hounding it's members for cash and funneling Russian money into the republican party to actually do its job.

NRA - A bar so low you could trip over it. Send money.

So then you like the Second Amendment foundation out of Bellevue, right? I get that you may not like the NRA, and I have mixed feelings, often because they make choices not to get involved when I think they should... if you dont like the NRA,  SAF has  a different focus on the same issue that should align with you if you have troubles with the NRA. 2c

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Mags will find the negative in any situation.

He'd win the lotto and complain about the weight of the check

[Lucky1]

Good for sure, but likely not permanent.  Unless I am reading it wrong, they would simply have to increase the font and add the strikethoughs to have it comply and get on the next ballot?

Is this correct?

I don’t think they could get that done and get the signatures needed in time to get it on this years ballot. I don’t think there is enough time for them to appeal to the state Supreme Court and get a ruling in time for this election either. They will probably try it again in two years.

[pianoman9701]

It's nice that the NRA managed to take a break from hounding it's members for cash and funneling Russian money into the republican party to actually do its job.

NRA - A bar so low you could trip over it. Send money.

You sound like a disgruntled supporter of 1639. No surprise there.

Not at all. I don't mind the age limit of semi-auto rifles being raised to 21, but I think the safe storage law was totally punitive and unconstitutional.

It's almost like a person doesn't have to pick Team A or Team B and agree with everything the tribe elders say. Weird concept.

Yeah, just is odd that the NRA was a big part of this decision and you went to bashing. You certainly look like a closet anti-gunner when you make comments like that and then support outrageous parts of anti-2A legislation. Someone 18 not being able to buy ANY semi-auto firearm is a ridiculous proposition. The whole initiative is ridiculous.

[bornhunter]

C'mon guys. Dont fall for his %#$!. This was a big win and lets all hope the SC doesnt OT turn it. If they get one win then watch what follows. Funny thing happened to me when I was walking into a store when a signature gather asked me if I wanted to sign to reduce car tabs. I got to the ballot sign sheet and guess what, it was for this anti gun bill. Turds!

[Atroxus]

Among other things, I-1639;
• Creates a gun registry for any transfers of commonly owned semi-automatic rifles;
• Introduces a 10-business day waiting period on the purchase of semi-automatic rifles;
• Imposes criminal liability on otherwise law-abiding gun owners who fail to store their firearms to state standards;
• Increases the age limit to possess or purchase semi-automatic rifles from 18 to 21;
• Mandates training prior to purchase;
• And authorizes a $25 fee to be assessed to semiautomatic rifle purchasers.

I could get behind a 10 day wait, if it is waived for CPL holders. We put up with it for for pistols, why not have long guns treated the same? Maybe just consolidate the pistol and long gun laws so that we have a single set of gun laws that covers both? 

I also don't have a problem holding people liable for not securing their firearms. If my kid gets a hold of my gun because I failed to secure it, and shoots himself or someone else, then I should be held accountable for that.

I have always thought it was silly to have different age restrictions for pistols and long guns. If it were up to me and I had to pick a single age limit for pistols and long guns though then that age limit would be 18 for both though.


The others though i think are total BS, especially the gun registry. 

[PlateauNDN]

  the 10 day wait across the board sounds reasonable. The other issue ive had is the age limit. When I transitioned from military to civilian life and career I laughed at the age limit for pistols. There were plenty of barney fifes that had no business carrying a firearm and were my superiors and yet here I am half the age and had more training, tighter groups and treated the firearm with more respect and I was the one that was looked at like I didnt know how to handle firearms or shoot them.

[magnanimous_j]

So then you like the Second Amendment foundation out of Bellevue, right? I get that you may not like the NRA, and I have mixed feelings, often because they make choices not to get involved when I think they should... if you dont like the NRA,  SAF has  a different focus on the same issue that should align with you if you have troubles with the NRA. 2c

Yeah, I do support them. I've never given money, honestly, but from what I know of them, they seem like a good group of people and reasonable.

You certainly look like a closet anti-gunner when you make comments like that and then support outrageous parts of anti-2A legislation.

I refuse to submit to any kind of litmus test for being a good "2A guy."

the 10 day wait across the board sounds reasonable. The other issue ive had is the age limit. When I transitioned from military to civilian life and career I laughed at the age limit for pistols. There were plenty of barney fifes that had no business carrying a firearm and were my superiors and yet here I am half the age and had more training, tighter groups and treated the firearm with more respect and I was the one that was looked at like I didnt know how to handle firearms or shoot them.

You are kind of making the anti's point for them, there. You were more qualified to have those weapons because you had the training and discipline.

The constitution doesn't mention training the Second Amendment, and I do believe any training requirements would invariably be abused , so I don't support any of that.

But you are playing right into their hand with statements like that.

[PlateauNDN]

I'm playing into their hands? My vote is playing against their hands so I'll just stick with that. I dont have to agree or like everything but if the overall agenda is what I like then so be it. I "pound-sign walked away" before it was cool to "pound-sign walk away".

 

[ghosthunter]

I contribute to both every year. And happy to see 1639 go down.

We have all the laws nessasary in place , no more are needed.

[Hi-Liter]

1639 would be a bad and unconstitutional law. WY to go NRA and 2nd Amendment foundation. Good On Judge Dixon in thurston county

[Axle]

Mandates training prior to purchase

And training is something that is (or should be) done by parents (usually the father).
The lack of fathers in American society has lead to so much corruption.
Paying women to have babies has led to the lack of a male figure in this society.
The lack of a father (male figure) has had detrimental impacts on our culture - along with other cultures and countries.
Most politicians are typically not capable of managing a nation. They make too many disastrous decisions and then try to punish society for their mistakes when things they implemented go wrong.
Need I say more?