barrel heating during practice?

[yorketransport]

Let's not have this discussion about barrel cooling devolve into how many ftlbs is necessary to be ethical, k? 

I'll only hunt deer to 350yds and buy a 300 Win Mag for elk if it makes you feel better.   Do you have any thoughts on how hot is too hot for a barrel during practice?

Discussing the ballistic merits - or lack thereof, of taking a 500 yard shot at an elk with a 7mm-08 (when there is a plethora of better options) with a newbie that obviously doesn't understand terminal ballistics is not "devolving", it's nipping a half-baked idea in the bud.  Kudos to you for recognizing that something like a 300 Win. Mag. is a better tool for that job.

As for barrel heat...Go to a local PSR event.  Watch and learn. Heck, participate...they are a TON of fun.  You'll witness shooters bark off 8-10 rounds in fairly rapid succession seemingly without concern for barrel heat.  The level of sustained accuracy out beyond 600+ yards would likely surprise you.  Some very, very hot rifles can still shoot very, very well.  Key word...some.  But that's beside the point. Instead, as a hunter, you should be focusing on where your first ethical cold bore shot goes.  Once you've mastered that and can keep it within 1.5-2 MOA under all field conditions/positions out to 350 yards, then you can seek to understand and integrate what your particular rifle does when it gets progressively hotter.     
 

Don't let these guys get ya down on a 500yard shot.If you can put it in the boiler room at 500 with quality ammo then I say do it .

I try to take two or three guns target shoot.trade out after four rounds.If you can hold the barrel for any amount of time your good to keep shooting,if you can only hold it for 5 sec you need to cool,if you can't even touch it hotter than a firecracker you went to far , but may still shoot good when it cools down.
I have noticed that ar15 stay a lot cooler I can shoot 10-20 it's about as hot as my bolt action guns with five rounds ,gas blow back or something keeps it cooler ,now a mini 14 I can shoot one mag 20 rds and thing is hotter than fiablo sause.
All guns are different for heat up ,it's up to you to know what your gun can handle.

...and don't let someone that obviously doesn't know what he's talking about give you advise.

JDhasty, is that you?

[Jonathan_S]

  

I've got a mini-14 that wears a 6x45 Krieger barrel.  50 rounds of "break-in" ammo along with both a 20 and a 30 rd magazine.

I'll let you know how hots she gets.

[Magnum_Willys]

...and don't let someone that obviously doesn't know what he's talking about give you advise.

What?  Its the interweb we are all experts don’t ya know?

[BULLBLASTER]

I think most do.usually take 4-5 guns and shoot until done.10 Shots in under a minute wont change much.10 shots in 3-4 min. will. with a magnum.

I meant with one gun.
As long as I’m having fun and the shots are going where expected I see no reason not to keep shooting.
My guns are usually still pretty uncomfortable to grab by the barrel after I get home.

[BULLBLASTER]

 

 

I've got a mini-14 that wears a 6x45 Krieger barrel.  50 rounds of "break-in" ammo along with both a 20 and a 30 rd magazine.

I'll let you know how hots she gets.

[yakimanoob]

Kudos to you for recognizing that something like a 300 Win. Mag. is a better tool for that job.

Hahahahahaha.  You entirely missed my meaning.

[Oh Mah]

seems to be the norm,especially when someone is trying to. Telling a person that is trying to learn accuracy to just shoot until barrel is burned up is only trying to be confrontational with those that are seriously trying to give good pointers on achieving accuracy.

[BULLBLASTER]

More well executed shots down range is better practice and will teach a whole lot more to the shooter than sitting and waiting for a barrel to cool after 3-5 shots.   

[Oh Mah]

my 3-5 shots was meant for some,pretty obvious.some can shoot 10-20 even 50 some can only hold 3-5 accurately.

read my comment on my profile.

[Jonathan_S]

I think some people are overestimating the risk of an average shooter heating/burning up a barrel.

I think this sums it up well

As long as I’m having fun and the shots are going where expected I see no reason not to keep shooting.

But hey BULLBLASTER only shoots every week and thousands and thousands of rounds a year

[jackelope]

Let's not have this discussion about barrel cooling devolve into how many ftlbs is necessary to be ethical, k? 

I'll only hunt deer to 350yds and buy a 300 Win Mag for elk if it makes you feel better.   Do you have any thoughts on how hot is too hot for a barrel during practice?

Discussing the ballistic merits - or lack thereof, of taking a 500 yard shot at an elk with a 7mm-08 (when there is a plethora of better options) with a newbie that obviously doesn't understand terminal ballistics is not "devolving", it's nipping a half-baked idea in the bud.  Kudos to you for recognizing that something like a 300 Win. Mag. is a better tool for that job.

As for barrel heat...Go to a local PSR event.  Watch and learn. Heck, participate...they are a TON of fun.  You'll witness shooters bark off 8-10 rounds in fairly rapid succession seemingly without concern for barrel heat.  The level of sustained accuracy out beyond 600+ yards would likely surprise you.  Some very, very hot rifles can still shoot very, very well.  Key word...some.  But that's beside the point. Instead, as a hunter, you should be focusing on where your first ethical cold bore shot goes.  Once you've mastered that and can keep it within 1.5-2 MOA under all field conditions/positions out to 350 yards, then you can seek to understand and integrate what your particular rifle does when it gets progressively hotter.     
 

Don't let these guys get ya down on a 500yard shot.If you can put it in the boiler room at 500 with quality ammo then I say do it .

I try to take two or three guns target shoot.trade out after four rounds.If you can hold the barrel for any amount of time your good to keep shooting,if you can only hold it for 5 sec you need to cool,if you can't even touch it hotter than a firecracker you went to far , but may still shoot good when it cools down.
I have noticed that ar15 stay a lot cooler I can shoot 10-20 it's about as hot as my bolt action guns with five rounds ,gas blow back or something keeps it cooler ,now a mini 14 I can shoot one mag 20 rds and thing is hotter than fiablo sause.
All guns are different for heat up ,it's up to you to know what your gun can handle.

...and don't let someone that obviously doesn't know what he's talking about give you advise.

(advice)

[Oh Mah]

if its to hot to hold barrel for a ten count then its to hot.That is what i've read.something to consider. powder.(is it temp. sensitive?)If only after 3 shots your accuracy falls off then its to warm.(same book)

Do you see the if Bullblaster?

[yakimanoob]

Burning up my barrel is definitely one of my concerns.  The LWH has a pretty thin contour, and I don't want to spend money on a new barrel if I don't have to.  I get it that competition-quality bull barrels will be able to fire more rounds faster than mine.  I'm not in a race to put holes in paper and obviously range work is a time commitment.  I'm not shy about that, but I am shy about annealing my barrel...

[Oh Mah]

  with that attitude you will get what you want in short order.yes it takes time,The only good rifle is an accurate one.perfect practice makes perfect performance. there are many many more.

[BULLBLASTER]

if its to hot to hold barrel for a ten count then its to hot.That is what i've read.something to consider. powder.(is it temp. sensitive?)If only after 3 shots your accuracy falls off then its to warm.(same book)

Do you see the if Bullblaster?

Is that the word spelled with an “I” and an “f”. Sure I see the word typed there but dont get your point. 
The op asked a question and I have given my answer. Yours is different who cares. You won’t be able to prove to me that something you have read means more than something I have done...

Because you read that may be too hot that is gospel?
I still stand by my thought that if I’m having fun and shots are going where expected why quit! Also stand by my post that more well executed shots downrange is better practice than watching a piece of metal cool down.