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Vote No on Initiative 1639 - Get the Word Out!
« on: September 06, 2018, 07:58:23 AM »
This is important to all of us... please read and take action by downloading flyers, yard signs, posters, etc. from the website listed here and get this into as many hands as possible: https://www.initiative1639.org/

I've also attached a couple pictures that you can download and use on your personal facebook page. The hunting community and Hunting-Washington members need to get involved. Let's fill social media and especially King and Pierce counties with this message.

VOTE "NO" ON INITIATIVE 1639

Washington voters who support the Second Amendment are urged to oppose Initiative 1639, which poses multiple threats to gun rights and puts law-abiding citizens in jeopardy, without any significant impact on violent crime. This lengthy (30-page) ballot initiative is just the latest in a series of gun-control ballot initiatives sponsored by the “Alliance for Gun Responsibility” and bankrolled by tech billionaires and anti-gun interest groups.

Initiative 1639 Would Make Firearms Unavailable for Self-Defense
I-1639 would require gun owners to lock up their firearms or face criminal charges. This strict mandate renders firearms useless in a self-defense situation by requiring them to be locked up. The difference between someone saving their family and becoming a victim of crime sometimes comes down to a few crucial seconds. These storage laws may steal those valuable seconds from the people who need them.

I-1639 Strips Adults Aged 18 to 20 of Their Constitutional Right to Self-Defense
Currently, adults aged 18-20 are prohibited from purchasing or receiving a handgun. I-1639 would expand the current law by prohibiting such law-abiding young adults from purchasing or receiving any semi-automatic rifle.  I-1639 would leave already vulnerable segments of the population defenseless to attack

I-1639 is unlikely to have the impact on violent crime it promises
Handguns- not rifles- are used in the majority of crimes committed with a firearm in Washington. Targeting rifle ownership will only restrict law-abiding adults from accessing them for self-defense, home protection, and hunting.

I-1639 would burden small businesses and law enforcement while placing personal information at risk.
Allows the government to collect and use gun owner information to enforce compliance and authorize gun confiscation. Under I-1639, data collected during gun sales and transfers could be used to enforce a new state “verification” process to ensure that persons are not in “illegal possession.


I-1639 Is Flawed, Misguided and Coming for You Anyway
Supporters of I-1639 hope that Washington voters believe the lies that gun control advocates have been busy spreading for decades. Don’t be fooled: The measures included here will do nothing to address the underlying causes of gun crime.


LIE
“Assault weapons” are used in most mass shootings.


TRUTH
According to a Statistica study of mass shootings between 1982 and June 2017, handguns, not rifles, are most commonly used in mass shootings. Gun control supporters are wrong to claim that “assault weapons” are used in most mass shootings. While the media focus on this false narrative, mass murders have been committed with firearms of all types, and without firearms of any type.


LIE
Initiative 1639 only regulates “assault weapons,” and won’t affect hunting rifles and target shooting guns.


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This Initiative adopts a new and bizarre definition of a “semiautomatic assault rifle.” Under this definition, many hunting guns, competitive shooting rifles, and target-shooting guns that match the current definition of “rifle” under current Washington State law would all become “assault rifles.” This definition goes beyond what has been used in other “assault weapon” bills and sweeps in any semiautomatic rifle, regardless of configuration or caliber. Popular rimfire rifles like the Ruger 10-22, Remington 597, or Marlin Model 60, lawfully used by countless young adults for recreational target shooting and small-game hunting, are included. These aren’t “machine guns” or “weapons of war” and aren’t regulated as such by the federal government.
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Re: Vote No on Initiative 1639 - Get the Word Out!
« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2018, 08:36:03 AM »
Thanks for the heads up, I’ll be voting NO
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Re: Vote No on Initiative 1639 - Get the Word Out!
« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2018, 11:05:46 AM »
I have beating this drum since our supreme court decide they can legislate from the bench.

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Re: Vote No on Initiative 1639 - Get the Word Out!
« Reply #3 on: September 06, 2018, 12:05:08 PM »
I have beating this drum since our supreme court decide they can legislate from the bench.

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Yeah, I've been doing the same. Decided though, that it's time to do more. I've volunteered with the NRA to "take action" by printing flyers, posting posters, etc. I'm printing a bunch of flyers and will be handing out to my neighbors. You can download these flyers, etc. at the website.
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Re: Vote No on Initiative 1639 - Get the Word Out!
« Reply #4 on: September 06, 2018, 01:00:04 PM »
Ben is from Washington and lives in the NE he is the grassroots cordinator for this state. Contact him to help. Hang signs, make phone calls distribute bumper stickers etc.

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« Reply #5 on: September 06, 2018, 01:57:59 PM »
I received this email from Ben regarding workshops on grass root workshop up in the NW part of the state.

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« Reply #6 on: September 08, 2018, 12:33:54 PM »
Picked up my bumpersticker at Skagit arms when picking up some ammo. Ben had dropped them off.

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« Reply #7 on: September 08, 2018, 12:39:55 PM »
Picked up my bumpersticker at Skagit arms when picking up some ammo. Ben had dropped them off.

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Re: Vote No on Initiative 1639 - Get the Word Out!
« Reply #8 on: September 08, 2018, 03:48:31 PM »
"Assault Rifle"  yearly death toll less than 200 people nation wide. Heroin yearly death toll nation wide, over 70,000. Maybe we should regulate "heroin"?


Oh that's right we have laws against misuse already.. Liberals really care less about deaths just power and control.


An armed man won't be lead off into the night for re-education.. There lies the problem.
If I need a permit and education to buy a firearm than women should need a permit and education  before getting an abortion.

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Re: Vote No on Initiative 1639 - Get the Word Out!
« Reply #10 on: September 10, 2018, 05:36:36 AM »
Where can a person get some decals?

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« Reply #11 on: September 10, 2018, 06:16:12 AM »
 :yeah:
Hey! I'm not a complete idiot I have parts missing. Though sometimes I wonder.

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« Reply #12 on: September 10, 2018, 02:35:27 PM »
Where can a person get some decals?

I have reached out to Ben Carpenter and other NRA folks asking for some stickers. Once they send them to me, I'll let you know how many I have and will send to whomever wants them.
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« Reply #13 on: September 10, 2018, 03:27:31 PM »
I'd take a few to distribute. I know some people that would display them. I like the one kevinlisa06 displayed.

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Re: Vote No on Initiative 1639 - Get the Word Out!
« Reply #14 on: September 11, 2018, 09:07:30 AM »
Has anyone summarized EVERYTHING listed in this? Trying to find a list of all this stupid 1639 will do

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Re: Vote No on Initiative 1639 - Get the Word Out!
« Reply #15 on: September 14, 2018, 11:29:48 AM »
From an NRA Email I received yesterday:

Vote "NO" on Initiative 1639
There are only 35 more days until ballots hit mailboxes, and 53 days until the General Election drop boxes close. Your NRA has been crisscrossing the Evergreen state to inform voters about the dangers of Initiative 1639, but we need your help. Below you will find a list of events that are being held throughout the state as well as a list of regional staff you can contact who will get you plugged into our efforts.   

While gun control proponents have Seattle elites who spent nearly $4 million just to get Initiative 1639 on the ballot, we have the strength of our grassroots army mobilizing to defeat it.

Don’t let gun control proponents criminalize your right to self-defense. Any amount of time or money you can give will have an impact! DONATE, VOLUNTEER, and VOTE NO ON I-1639 on the November ballot!

Get the facts about I-1639 at www.Initiative1639.org.
 
 
EVENTS, WORKSHOPS, & MORE

Learn how you can help educate fellow Washingtonians on Initiative 1639!

   
WASHINGTON STATE FAIR BOOTH
Friday, August 31 - Sunday, September 23
110 9th Ave SW
Puyallup, WA 98371
​Click Here to RSVP: https://www.nrailafrontlines.com/washington_state_fair_2018

   
I5 GUNS & AMMO PHONE BANK
Wednesday, September 19, 2018
5:00 pm - 8:00 pm
7263 Martin Way E D, Lacey, WA
Click Here to RSVP: https://www.nrailafrontlines.com/i_1639_olympia_phone_bank

   
ISSAQUAH SPORTSMEN'S CLUB GRASSROOTS WORKSHOP
Monday, September 24, 2018
6:00 pm - 7:30 pm
23600 SE Evans St Issaquah, WA 98027
Click Here to RSVP: https://www.nrailafrontlines.com/issaquah_grasssroots_workshop

   
TACTICAL SUPPLY GRASSROOTS WORKSHOP
Tuesday, September 25, 2018
6:00 pm - 7:30 pm
1701 Garretson Lane, Yakima, WA 98908
​Click Here to RSVP: https://www.nrailafrontlines.com/yakima_grassroots_workshop
 

   
PASCO RED LION GRASSROOTS WORKSHOP
Wednesday, September 26, 2018
6:00 pm - 7:30 pm
2525 N 20th Ave, Pasco, WA 99301
​Click Here to RSVP: https://www.nrailafrontlines.com/tri_cities_grassroots_workshop
 

   
SHARP SHOOTING INDOOR RANGE GRASSROOTS WORKSHOP
Thursday, September 27, 2018
6:00 pm - 7:30 pm
1200 N Freya Way Spokane, WA 99202
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If you are unable to attend, but willing to assist, please contact your NRA-ILA Grassroots Field Coordinator, Ben Carpenter, at Ben@nrailafrontlines.com or (703) 708-4487.


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Re: Vote No on Initiative 1639 - Get the Word Out!
« Reply #16 on: September 17, 2018, 10:12:02 AM »
A friend and I attended the Sept. 12th workshop in University Place. We  were impressed with all the information they produced from canvasing neighborhoods, call banks and wordage on just how to reach the uninformed, undecided potential voters.

It is up to us to to beat this unconstitutional abomination so we must talk, call, text or email thoses you know and let them know what we are up against.

You would not believe how many gun owners & hunters that are oblivious this is happening!!!

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Re: Vote No on Initiative 1639 - Get the Word Out!
« Reply #17 on: September 19, 2018, 10:02:49 AM »
Get more INFORMATION on I-1639 at:
https://www.initiative1639.org/

Please TAKE ACTION:
https://www.initiative1639.org/take-action/

Please DONATE to help defeat this abomination:
https://www.initiative1639.org/donate/

Contact Ben Carpenter, Washington NRA Grassroots Field Coordinator, to get involved, and ask for yard signs and bumper stickers.  Ben can help connect you someone local to your area that can help get you what you need.
Ben@nrailafrontlines.com (703-708-4487).

PLEASE VOTE NO on I-1639, and get ALL of your family, friends, and colleagues to do the same. 

People that DO NOT VOTE are actually voting for what they DO NOT WANT by default.

This is not a Republican-Democrat issue, take action to PROTECT YOUR SECOND AMENDMENT RIGHTS!

Please DO NOT support elected officials that are anti-gun or anti-hunting.

EVERY SINGLE VOTE COUNTS!

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Re: Vote No on Initiative 1639 - Get the Word Out!
« Reply #18 on: September 21, 2018, 12:04:49 PM »
I'd take a few to distribute. I know some people that would display them. I like the one kevinlisa06 displayed.

The NRA representative from NW Washington sent me 4 bumper stickers. Pm me your address and I’ll send you 1 or 2.




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Re: Vote No on Initiative 1639 - Get the Word Out!
« Reply #19 on: September 23, 2018, 08:56:49 PM »
Grassroots Workshop meeting in Yakima this Tuesday 9/25/18. Red Lion on Yakima Ave from  6-7:30pm.

We can't just sit by and let these idiots try to ram this through!
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« Reply #20 on: September 25, 2018, 11:00:38 PM »
Grassroots Workshop meeting in Yakima this Tuesday 9/25/18. Red Lion on Yakima Ave from  6-7:30pm.

We can't just sit by and let these idiots try to ram this through!

The sad part is that many gun owners and hunters do not know this is happening and still refuse to get involved or vote.
If WE do not get these people involved then we have lost

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« Reply #21 on: September 26, 2018, 12:52:18 PM »
Is anyone interested in doing some door-knocking in Olympia? The NRA has set up a time and place, here is the email I recieved.

It's up to us to do the footwork!!!

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Jim --

Stand up and fight for your Second Amendment rights in Olympia on our National Day of Action!  We will meet in the parking lot of i5 Guns & Ammo in Lacey to go out and door knock.  This activity is very important to get out the vote and defeat I-1639.  Please show up at 11am, or a little before if you've never door knocked before.  Even if you can only make it for an hour, we can use you.

When: Saturday September 29th from 11am-4pm

Meet: I5 Guns & Ammo Parking Lot 7263 Martin Way E Suite D, Lacey, WA 98516



Please make sure you bring your smart phone or tablet.  We will be using an app that you can download beforehand.  Contact me for details.

If you have any questions or want to get set up early call or email Matthew Cardenas at matthew@nrailafrontlines.com or (703)268-6896.  Once you are set up on the apps you can also call and knock on doors in your own time.

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Re: Vote No on Initiative 1639 - Get the Word Out!
« Reply #22 on: September 26, 2018, 09:37:57 PM »
Hey fellow hunters & shooters, I just wanted to shamelessly plug an Anti-1639 fundraiser taking place over at WaGuns.org (in the Pay it Forward section of the forum). It's raffle style - contribute money through the site and you'll be entered into a drawing for several cool prizes, including some firearms.

We need all the money we can to fight this stupid initiative, so it's for a good cause. And who wouldn't mind having the chance to win a new gun in the process?!  :tup:

Thanks to everyone who has already contributed to the fight. There are many ways to do it, not all of which require money, and they're all critically important to preserving our rights.
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Re: Vote No on Initiative 1639 - Get the Word Out!
« Reply #23 on: September 27, 2018, 08:16:44 PM »
Hey fellow hunters & shooters, I just wanted to shamelessly plug an Anti-1639 fundraiser taking place over at WaGuns.org (in the Pay it Forward section of the forum). It's raffle style - contribute money through the site and you'll be entered into a drawing for several cool prizes, including some firearms.

We need all the money we can to fight this stupid initiative, so it's for a good cause. And who wouldn't mind having the chance to win a new gun in the process?!  :tup:

Thanks to everyone who has already contributed to the fight. There are many ways to do it, not all of which require money, and they're all critically important to preserving our rights.

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Re: Vote No on Initiative 1639 - Get the Word Out!
« Reply #24 on: October 02, 2018, 02:34:40 AM »
omg I hate the idea that something that's supposed to be uninfringeable can be, by just a majority vote.  :bdid:
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Re: Vote No on Initiative 1639 - Get the Word Out!
« Reply #25 on: October 02, 2018, 08:57:38 PM »
Sickening.
"When my bow falls, so shall the world. When me heart ceases to pump blood to my body, it will all come crashing down. As a hunter, we are bound by duty, nay, bound by our very soul to this world. When a hunter dies we feel it, we sense it, and the world trembles with sorrow. When I die, so shall the world, from the shock of loosing such a great part of ones soul." Ezekiel, Okeanos Hunter

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Re: Vote No on Initiative 1639 - Get the Word Out!
« Reply #26 on: October 11, 2018, 11:35:18 PM »
Keep talking this up. Get the word out. Remind people on this forum, at home, at work, in your neighborhood, when you're out hunting this weekend... VOTE NO on I-1639!

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Re: Vote No on Initiative 1639 - Get the Word Out!
« Reply #27 on: October 11, 2018, 11:40:38 PM »
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Re: Vote No on Initiative 1639 - Get the Word Out!
« Reply #28 on: October 17, 2018, 11:05:18 AM »
Listening to the Radio and I heard that this awful initiative will likely pass by 20-25 points.

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Re: Vote No on Initiative 1639 - Get the Word Out!
« Reply #29 on: October 17, 2018, 11:12:21 AM »
Spokane Review paper has come out against this initiative.  In the editorial section today.

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Re: Vote No on Initiative 1639 - Get the Word Out!
« Reply #30 on: October 22, 2018, 08:18:27 AM »
I don't know if this will have any impact one way or another at this point, but I have to wonder if he left a part of his fortune to gun control interests?

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Re: Vote No on Initiative 1639 - Get the Word Out!
« Reply #31 on: October 22, 2018, 08:22:12 AM »
I heard a piece on NPR the other day, they had the founder of the bill and a gun instructor debating it.  The female gun instructor did a pretty decent job poking holes in it and actually got the other guy to admit the bill's language doesn't match what the intent was.  The instructor didn't go into much detail on some of the major flaws, probably a balancing act for a listener base that isn't much into the technical aspects of guns.  It sounded pretty clear the bill was drafted without any input from anyone that understands the unintended consequences - par for the course looking at the last bill that passed.


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« Reply #32 on: October 22, 2018, 08:30:49 AM »
 :yeah:

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« Reply #33 on: October 22, 2018, 08:32:37 AM »
That doesn’t surprise me. Most of the bills are written without thought or with something in there to trick the people. Peole need to start getting more involved in the voting. Know what’s going on

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« Reply #34 on: October 22, 2018, 08:43:26 AM »
So with this initiative being one that is a 100% "NO" vote- I haven't read it and this may have already been covered, but would it affect those who already own semi-automatic rifles? To legally possess these "assault rifles," would the training course be required? Any other requirements?

I see this creating a whole lot of new criminals, as I doubt many will comply with this new law, if it does pass.

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« Reply #35 on: October 22, 2018, 08:48:41 AM »
If this passes I'm most likely moving, I'm just about done with all the liberal Washington baloney.
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Re: Vote No on Initiative 1639 - Get the Word Out!
« Reply #36 on: October 22, 2018, 08:50:23 AM »
If this passes I'm most likely moving, I'm just about done with all the liberal Washington baloney.

Me too! Already told the wife. If this passes we're moving out of this state ASAP.

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« Reply #37 on: October 22, 2018, 10:57:24 AM »
It will most likely pass

I voted on Saturday and Voted No on 1639 and nowhere in the wording on my ballot does it state that this law will ban the sale of semi auto rifles to 18-20 year old. that is flat out misleading on the ballot. We shouldn't have to do more research when the initiative in itself is misleading and unconstitutional . Plus why in world would people be able to vote on taking away fundamental rights, just flat wrong.

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Re: Vote No on Initiative 1639 - Get the Word Out!
« Reply #38 on: October 22, 2018, 10:52:07 PM »
It will most likely pass

I voted on Saturday and Voted No on 1639 and nowhere in the wording on my ballot does it state that this law will ban the sale of semi auto rifles to 18-20 year old. that is flat out misleading on the ballot. We shouldn't have to do more research when the initiative in itself is misleading and unconstitutional . Plus why in world would people be able to vote on taking away fundamental rights, just flat wrong.
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Re: Vote No on Initiative 1639 - Get the Word Out!
« Reply #39 on: October 30, 2018, 02:26:10 PM »
Bumping this up

Make sure send out Ballots Vote NO 1639

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Re: Vote No on Initiative 1639 - Get the Word Out!
« Reply #40 on: October 30, 2018, 03:40:09 PM »
I did my civic duty and voted,  get er done folks! 


and read carefully, don't accidentally check no when you meant to check yes, or yes when you meant no  :chuckle:

 


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