Youth mudflow bull tag

[Edminsterquality]

13 year old son drew mudflow bull tag. Starts Nov 21st. Looking for info on hunt and possible entry points.

[BuckSnort18]

One access off 504 to the bottom unless you have a Weyerhaeuser permit. I hunted high this year with success. May be tough in November.  4000ft and steep.

[Crunchy]

504 is probably the easiest access.  Will have to walk about a mile from what i remember.  But will see elk when you get to the bottom.

[Clearcut]

Pm sent

[BuckSnort18]

What is pm sent? Would like to share all my info for a young hunter.

[Clearcut]

It’s private message sent and i couldn’t agree more.. I’m offering up any info to help.. just wasn’t gonna write a book of post up.

[Red10]

PM Sent

[mkrmurphy]

Davey....Call me, buddy knows that area really well.

Murph

[grade-creek-rd]

Well...if people are willing to share info on accessing Mudflow without needing a Weyehauser permit, my son has the Mudflow Cow Permit and it starts Oct. 27th...I'd appreciate any info possible (and yes, we plan on scouting it the weekend before...and no, I haven't bought the permit as I read that you can access the 3000 line from the 4100 without needing it...)

Grade

[TikkaT3-270Shortmag]

Drop in off the spirit lake highway.  Theres a couple gates that aren't weyco

[bobcat]

https://wdfw.wa.gov/hunting/permits/hunt_info/mudflow/

[grade-creek-rd]

thanks Bobcat for the link...really wish WDFW would have included that one page "info" update when they sent the permit, along with whatever "parts" they want us to collect...as the permit was on the standard letter just like all other permits. I have drawn the Toutle permit before so I know the area, to the south, pretty well and saw on the Weyeco page that access to the DNR land along the 3000 isn't restricted. I also figured we would have to hike into the mudlfow unit, so I really am not worried, luckily my son likes to "hunt" (hike)...but I will admit, WDFW makes it very confusing. it seems to me that 3 non-hunters helping only applies to the hunters with disability permit holders (as that is the grammar they used...) and only to the non-Wildlife Area portion of the Mudflow...again, confusing. but if others are allowed in there that are not hunters then how can WDFW say 3 helpers are allowed?

anyway, thanks for the info...his permit is good for Late Nov too which might push more elk into the area. for now, we will scout it out and see what we can find, and probably concentrate around Castle Lake...though that pack out will suck!

Grade

[duckboy23]

Yes start up by Castle lake. My daughter has had this tag and I've helped with many others. There is an old quad trail on the ridge above Castle, if you don't get fog, you'll find elk there. Just have pack boards or a quad!

[grade-creek-rd]

Thanks duckboy23!...several years ago I had the Toutle bull permit and ran into a Dad with his 15 year old son who had the Mudflow bull permit and they were getting set to hike out that old road to a group of elk...I know exactly where your talking about, and figured that was where we would start, especially since it's so steep I figured less likely to run into a cow with hoof rot as well.

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[lamrith]

Yes start up by Castle lake. My daughter has had this tag and I've helped with many others. There is an old quad trail on the ridge above Castle, if you don't get fog, you'll find elk there. Just have pack boards or a quad!

I recommend hunters check the regs on that quad trail, if it is the one I am thinking about.  I helped a friend on the mudflow Archery hunt a few years back and at that time we were told that "quad trail" is not technically a quad trail recognized by WDFG/ Forest Service.  There are not supposed to be motorized equipment going down that trail, even though people have been doing it anyway. 
Don't just take my or anyone elses word for it, I recommend anyone hutning there to confirm the facts.  Just wanting to advise caution and check with F&G/Forest service about using a quad on that trail, it would suck to have a ticket or worse mess up a great hunt with your child.

GOOD LUCK!  I t is a great hunt!