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Stateland
« on: October 25, 2018, 06:28:01 PM »
Is there any legal way to access stateland that is basically surrounded by Weyerhaeuser I would assume that the state has an easement but I can’t find it on my gps with hunt Washington chip or the hunt onX app..

Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks
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Re: Stateland
« Reply #1 on: October 26, 2018, 09:22:45 AM »
If it's a state or county road that goes through Weyerhaueser land, you're alright travel through it.  If it's not (which is the case a lot of the time), you'll need a Weyco access pass.  LIke $75 to walk, $300 to drive.

It's worth noting that the state has easements through Weyerhaueser land, but the word in the woods is that a call to DNR won't get much response on the matter.

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Re: Stateland
« Reply #2 on: October 26, 2018, 11:20:10 AM »
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Re: Stateland
« Reply #3 on: October 26, 2018, 02:04:25 PM »
I wouldn’t assume, there are millions of acres of public land with no legal access outside of a helicopter.


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Re: Stateland
« Reply #4 on: October 26, 2018, 02:05:25 PM »
I just listened to a meateater podcast talking about this exact thing. Pretty sure the number they threw out was 9,000,000 acres nationwide of landlocked public land.
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Re: Stateland
« Reply #5 on: October 26, 2018, 02:17:11 PM »
We're lucky PUBLIC land is even a thing.

Look at other states.  Texas for instance...

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Re: Stateland
« Reply #6 on: October 26, 2018, 02:53:26 PM »
We're lucky PUBLIC land is even a thing.

Look at other states.  Texas for instance...
It's mostly private land, but the hunting is absurdly good in Texas... In fact, your mention of TX made me curious about the numbers.

Estimates (with 95% confidence from the surveyors) were that 935,629 deer (whitetail and mule combined) were harvested last year in Texas. 28,935 deer were harvested in WA (if I did the math right based on 2017 harvest reports). WA is 26.5846% the size of TX. If WA had the same rate of harvest per square mile of land as TX, there would have been 248,733 deer harvested last year.

Or to put it statistically, there were 3.4833 deer kills per square mile in TX and 0.405 kills per square mile in WA. The success rate is 60.57% for whitetails and 35.83% for Mule Deer in TX.

But, there is 1% of the state huntable in TX and 31.7% of the state huntable in WA. Huntable here being defined as land open to the public for hunting.

I'm not really making a point here, I just thought the statistics were interesting. And also to clarify how good the hunting is down there. Granted, a lot of the TX deer have a sizeable corn feeder diet.

As for the OP's question, I think The Marquis has given some good advice here.

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Re: Stateland
« Reply #7 on: October 26, 2018, 04:23:14 PM »
I just listened to a meateater podcast talking about this exact thing. Pretty sure the number they threw out was 9,000,000 acres nationwide of landlocked public land.

I could be wrong about this, but wasn't that in reference just to the western states they were studying? I'd actually have to go back and listen to be sure, I guess. It could have been nation-wide...
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Re: Stateland
« Reply #8 on: October 26, 2018, 05:15:03 PM »
We're lucky PUBLIC land is even a thing.

Look at other states.  Texas for instance...
It's mostly private land, but the hunting is absurdly good in Texas... In fact, your mention of TX made me curious about the numbers.

Estimates (with 95% confidence from the surveyors) were that 935,629 deer (whitetail and mule combined) were harvested last year in Texas. 28,935 deer were harvested in WA (if I did the math right based on 2017 harvest reports). WA is 26.5846% the size of TX. If WA had the same rate of harvest per square mile of land as TX, there would have been 248,733 deer harvested last year.

Or to put it statistically, there were 3.4833 deer kills per square mile in TX and 0.405 kills per square mile in WA. The success rate is 60.57% for whitetails and 35.83% for Mule Deer in TX.

But, there is 1% of the state huntable in TX and 31.7% of the state huntable in WA. Huntable here being defined as land open to the public for hunting.

I'm not really making a point here, I just thought the statistics were interesting. And also to clarify how good the hunting is down there. Granted, a lot of the TX deer have a sizeable corn feeder diet.

As for the OP's question, I think The Marquis has given some good advice here.

- There's a lot less cougars and big predators in TX too.
- Also, forests are great hiding spots for deer, but the food is out where the sun shines. 
- Winter survival also takes a huge toll in more northern states.  Not so much so in the Lone Star.
- I'd love to go hunt some WT in Texas though.  Talk about longhorns!
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Re: Stateland
« Reply #9 on: October 26, 2018, 06:51:29 PM »
I just listened to a meateater podcast talking about this exact thing. Pretty sure the number they threw out was 9,000,000 acres nationwide of landlocked public land.

I could be wrong about this, but wasn't that in reference just to the western states they were studying? I'd actually have to go back and listen to be sure, I guess. It could have been nation-wide...

I think it was 13 western states?
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Re: Stateland
« Reply #10 on: October 26, 2018, 07:16:14 PM »
I wouldn't say hunting is better in Texas. Shooting, yes.

When landowners are paid tens of thousands of dollars to raise and protect game behind high fences, harvest rates will definitely be higher.
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Re: Stateland
« Reply #11 on: October 26, 2018, 09:10:02 PM »
I wouldn't say hunting is better in Texas. Shooting, yes.

When landowners are paid tens of thousands of dollars to raise and protect game behind high fences, harvest rates will definitely be higher.
They call it picking not hunting in Central Texas. The deer hear the sound of that corn feeder to off and in they run.

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Re: Stateland
« Reply #12 on: October 26, 2018, 09:25:25 PM »
There is no comparison to western  states hunting to Texas at this time.
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Re: Stateland
« Reply #13 on: October 27, 2018, 11:59:59 AM »
I wouldn’t assume, there are millions of acres of public land with no legal access outside of a helicopter.


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Well there is, anyone that has spent anytime at all hunting the western states has run across landlocked federal, state and Blm lands constantly. Some of which are so close to the road you could spit on it but you can’t step on the 3ft strip of private to get on it. So yes there are millions of landlocked state and federal lands with no way on to them outside of a helicopter. There used to be a guy with a show on TV about helicoptering into these locked public lands but I don’t remember the name of it.
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Re: Stateland
« Reply #14 on: October 27, 2018, 01:12:40 PM »
I wouldn’t assume, there are millions of acres of public land with no legal access outside of a helicopter.


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Well there is, anyone that has spent anytime at all hunting the western states has run across landlocked federal, state and Blm lands constantly. Some of which are so close to the road you could spit on it but you can’t step on the 3ft strip of private to get on it. So yes there are millions of landlocked state and federal lands with no way on to them outside of a helicopter. There used to be a guy with a show on TV about helicoptering into these locked public lands but I don’t remember the name of it.
His name is Randy Newberg there is also a big debate on corner crossing to access these statelands that are in the millions of acres
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