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Re: Herrera vs Wyoming
« Reply #1 on: November 02, 2018, 06:40:50 PM »
This case will get interesting.
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Re: Herrera vs Wyoming
« Reply #2 on: November 02, 2018, 07:04:58 PM »
Awesome! I thought for sure they would drop the charges, and the Bighorn Mountains would become the Crow Tribe's new hunting grounds. Until they wiped out all the elk, like they have on their reservation.

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Re: Herrera vs Wyoming
« Reply #3 on: November 02, 2018, 07:36:26 PM »
Awesome! I thought for sure they would drop the charges, and the Bighorn Mountains would become the Crow Tribe's new hunting grounds. Until they wiped out all the elk, like they have on their reservation.
Man you have no clue of the history in this case(s). The state has never dropped the charges against him or his dad.

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Re: Herrera vs Wyoming
« Reply #4 on: November 02, 2018, 07:37:12 PM »

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Re: Herrera vs Wyoming
« Reply #5 on: November 02, 2018, 07:48:23 PM »
The crow have no elk on their rez? Really, because the pics I see coming from there say other wise. But then again, as it pertains to hw experts of Indian country i dont know what I'm talking about.
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Re: Herrera vs Wyoming
« Reply #6 on: November 02, 2018, 07:50:19 PM »
Amazing the difference between the 9th circus and the 10th.

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Re: Herrera vs Wyoming
« Reply #7 on: November 02, 2018, 07:52:13 PM »
Amazing the difference between the 9th circus and the 10th.
And the solicitors opinion is not valid?

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Re: Herrera vs Wyoming
« Reply #8 on: November 02, 2018, 08:17:07 PM »
Awesome! I thought for sure they would drop the charges, and the Bighorn Mountains would become the Crow Tribe's new hunting grounds. Until they wiped out all the elk, like they have on their reservation.
Man you have no clue of the history in this case(s). The state has never dropped the charges against him or his dad.

I wasn't talking about the state dropping the charges. I meant when they went to court that the charges would be dropped, or he would be found not guilty, however you want to say it. They've never been allowed to hunt in the Bighorn National Forest so why that one guy thought it was okay I have no idea.

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Re: Herrera vs Wyoming
« Reply #9 on: November 02, 2018, 08:36:53 PM »
Awesome! I thought for sure they would drop the charges, and the Bighorn Mountains would become the Crow Tribe's new hunting grounds. Until they wiped out all the elk, like they have on their reservation.
Man you have no clue of the history in this case(s). The state has never dropped the charges against him or his dad.

I wasn't talking about the state dropping the charges. I meant when they went to court that the charges would be dropped, or he would be found not guilty, however you want to say it. They've never been allowed to hunt in the Bighorn National Forest so why that one guy thought it was okay I have no idea.
Was it one guy? Is there a long standing list of charges? You sure about never?

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Re: Herrera vs Wyoming
« Reply #10 on: November 02, 2018, 08:40:08 PM »
The state claims the Tribes Treaty was abolished when it was not, only Congress has the authority to abolish Treaties and they never abolished the Crow Treaty.

So someone believes they've never hunted the bighorn mts? Is that fact or just an assumption?

I suppose some would say my Tribe has no rights to treaty hunt as far as the plains to?

I'm no hw expert on indian treaty issues so I'll leave that alone.

Like I said, it's going to get interesting.
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Re: Herrera vs Wyoming
« Reply #11 on: November 02, 2018, 08:59:12 PM »
The article posted above is from a while ago and is not the current status.  This case is at the Supreme Court and its frankly inconceivable that Wyoming has any chance of prevailing.  I suspect a harsh beat down of the stupid arguments Wyoming is making...which are that 1) statehood terminates treaties or 2) that national forests are not open and unclaimed lands.

Trumps solicitors have provided the court with the position of the United States...which is in full support of Herrera.
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Re: Herrera vs Wyoming
« Reply #12 on: November 02, 2018, 09:06:07 PM »
 :yeah: It was supposed to be heard in Oct but was granted an extension until this month I believe.

This will mark 2 treaty related cases in a month for SCOTUS.
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Re: Herrera vs Wyoming
« Reply #13 on: November 02, 2018, 09:33:03 PM »
The crow have no elk on their rez? Really, because the pics I see coming from there say other wise. But then again, as it pertains to hw experts of Indian country i dont know what I'm talking about.

 I have a lease down there, have driven through about every year for years and never seen so much as a doe on the actual Rez.....just sayin. ;)
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Re: Herrera vs Wyoming
« Reply #14 on: November 02, 2018, 09:35:44 PM »
The crow have no elk on their rez? Really, because the pics I see coming from there say other wise. But then again, as it pertains to hw experts of Indian country i dont know what I'm talking about.

 I have a lease down there, have driven through about every year for years and never seen so much as a doe on the actual Rez.....just sayin. ;)

I've never seen a cougar in the thousands of miles I've put on in the forests of wa. So does that mean they're not there.
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