I-1639 mega thread

[Cab]

Sporting system made a video that helps a lot
https://www.facebook.com/dmsportingsystems/videos/351477668946584/

[CP]

So, what's in my possession right now is not affected?  Do I have that right?

 

[ghosthunter]

I thought maybe the medical records part might get kicked out by the courts.

If they have your medical records they have your whole life.

I was talking to my wife last night about that part. She says mental illness diagnoses is subjective. And cant understand how they would be allowed to use medical records. ?

I would be very surprised if 1639 got over turned in the courts. With 60% of the voters they can do what ever they want.

[Cab]

So, what's in my possession right now is not affected?  Do I have that right?

100% correct, your current firearms are not effected only new purchases are after July 1st

[Stein]

What you have now is subject to the storage rules after it takes effect.


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[bobcat]

So, what's in my possession right now is not affected?  Do I have that right?

Well, any so called "assault rifles" that you have will be harder to sell, or maybe impossible, at least for a while, until they have training classes available for people to take and become certified so they are allowed to purchase an "assault rifle." Right now as far as I know there's no class you could take to satisfy the requirement. Maybe there is, and I just don't know about it. But I know one thing, I will never take any such class. Not in my lifetime. If I want to purchase a semi-automatic rifle I guess I'll be driving to another state.

[eastsidemallard74]

I have a question, i voted no of course, but one of the things i heard is now having to take a gun class within the last 5 years. Does this only apply if yo bought the gun here after July 1st? And does anyone know where these so classes are? And last ,I'm being serious when i ask this, it's after July 1st 2019 correct?

[actionshooter]

Sporting system made a video that helps a lot
https://www.facebook.com/dmsportingsystems/videos/351477668946584/

I was going to post this....
 If everyone watches this it will answer a lot of questions.

[Bob33]

I have a question, i voted no of course, but one of the things i heard is now having to take a gun class within the last 5 years. Does this only apply if yo bought the gun here after July 1st? And does anyone know where these so classes are? And last ,I'm being serious when i ask this, it's after July 1st 2019 correct?

The training course requirement pertains to "semiautomatic assault rifles" purchased or transferred in Washington after July 1, 2019. There is insufficient information about any classes at this time.

[JimmyHoffa]

So, all they have to do is drag their feet on approving a training class indefinitely.  It took them a few years to finally let the marijuana stores and farms open up.

[bobcat]

Yeah, no training class means essentially a ban on semi-automatic rifle sales in Washington. That's what we have. We're now worse than California when it comes to firearm laws.

[ghosthunter]

Well dose t look like Hunter Ed classes will be a option.

Received this today.


 
 
Jan Ulijohn
WDFW - Hunter Education
(360) 902-8112
 
Mailing Address
POB 43200
Olympia WA 98504-3200
 
From: Whipple, David A (DFW)
Sent: Friday, November 9, 2018 3:16 PM
To: Ulijohn, Jan (DFW) <Jan.Ulijohn@dfw.wa.gov>
Subject: Initiative 1639
 
Dear Hunter Education Instructors,
 
You likely know Initiative 1639 was approved by the majority of Washington voters during the recent election.  You also likely have questions about WDFW’s perspective on whether our hunter education curriculum meets the required elements of the firearm safety training program.
 
I want to let you know that, as you might expect, WDFW does not believe the hunter education curriculum meets the initiative’s required training elements.  In addition, we will not be actively seeking to modify our curriculum to meet the required training elements in the initiative.   
 
Among the reasons not to modify our curriculum to meet the initiative’s requirements, is that has been estimated an average of 260,000 background checks are conducted each year in Washington for the purchase of long guns.  It is unknown how many of those purchases would meet the definition of a “semiautomatic assault rifle” under the initiative, and thus require completion of training.  However, even if that percentage is very small, and the initiative were to have a significant negative effect on the number of semiautomatic assault rifles purchased, the hunter education program could not accommodate that additional demand. 
 
We’ll be discussing this further with the Instructor Advisory Committee at our December 1 meeting.
 
Please help make sure your fellow teaching team instructors receive this information, especially those who do not have access to a computer. 
 
I’ll share any other important information in the future via the instructor website. 
 
Attached are two documents:
·       A copy of Initiative 1639
·       A brief summary of the initiative, which includes an assessment of how the required training relates to the hunter education curriculum.
 
Thank you all for your incredible service to the hunting heritage.  I also want to thank our many veterans for serving our country.
 
I wish you all a very Happy Veteran’s Day, and also a Happy Thanksgiving.
 
Sincerely,
Dave
 
 
 

[SGTDuffman]

Sounds like the kind of “hunter” who voted yes... he probably read that super biased summary in the pamphlet and said, “Eh, I don’t use assault rifles...”. All those scary weapons of war like a 10/22, Nylon 66, or Marlin Model 60 have no place on our streets.

[Knocker of rocks]

Sounds like the kind of “hunter” who voted yes... he probably read that super biased summary in the pamphlet and said, “Eh, I don’t use assault rifles...”. All those scary weapons of war like a 10/22, Nylon 66, or Marlin Model 60 have no place on our streets.

I don't know if that is a fair statement.  The classes will address different subjects and people.   It is common sense for WDFW to divorce themselves from the I-1639 classes which at present nobody in the world knows what needs to be taught and who certifies it as such.

[Oh Mah]

Since this is the only communist state that has such a law,it is going to be difficult to get such a class certified.Needs to be nationally recognized?The only hope we have on such a stupid law put in place by such stupid people is that the stupid courts in this state are overturned by S.C.O.T.U.S. and the sooner the better.