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It's much more likely that this guy was nuts,which is why the cops were there to take his guns.I would like to believe that most cops don't get out of bed in the morning and say "today I am going to kill someone ".For anyone that thinks he was shot without reason try pulling your gun on a cop and see what happens.Farewell to thee....
You guys should read up on how a red flag order is granted.It goes in front of a judge and he decides if there is probable cause to carry out the order.Do you think the judges and prosecutors don't remind the person making the complaint that they will be prosecuted for making false complaints.?Common sense seems to be in short supply,but then the cops are Nazis so why am I surprised.
Very troubling story. The caller could have set him for the deadly encounter with the police. Now just wait the caller will hire an attorney and claim wrongful death and get a big payout. If it happened in Washington the officer involved in the shooting could face criminal charges with the passing of the latest initiative 940.
Just to be clear,I am the only one so far actually defending the cops shooting this moron.Also the last person that would call cops Nazis.
Quote from: Tinmaniac on November 13, 2018, 04:32:05 PMYou guys should read up on how a red flag order is granted.It goes in front of a judge and he decides if there is probable cause to carry out the order.Do you think the judges and prosecutors don't remind the person making the complaint that they will be prosecuted for making false complaints.?Common sense seems to be in short supply,but then the cops are Nazis so why am I surprised.I know red flag laws are difficult to get now, we're still in the honey moon test phase. After it becomes more "mainstream" and commonplace years down the road it won't be so difficult. As time progresses people get conditioned to it, getting a red flag on someone will become easier. If they resist and get shot....the ends have justified the means. Don't you have a problem with that?
When cops came door to door in The Katrina aftermath there were plenty of folks that didn't get thier guns back, and those were "orders" given by the police.The lack of prosecutions of other liers and purjurors doesnt give me confidence. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G930A using Tapatalk
Quote from: Badhabit on November 13, 2018, 04:26:29 PMVery troubling story. The caller could have set him for the deadly encounter with the police. Now just wait the caller will hire an attorney and claim wrongful death and get a big payout. If it happened in Washington the officer involved in the shooting could face criminal charges with the passing of the latest initiative 940. Have you actually read I940? Not the voters pamphlet summary, but the actual text? I don't like it as a law, but I don't think what you're saying has a grain of accuracy. Quote from: Tinmaniac on November 13, 2018, 05:59:51 PMJust to be clear,I am the only one so far actually defending the cops shooting this moron.Also the last person that would call cops Nazis.Did you not read what I posted yesterday? Quote from: KFhunter on November 13, 2018, 06:24:34 PMQuote from: Tinmaniac on November 13, 2018, 04:32:05 PMYou guys should read up on how a red flag order is granted.It goes in front of a judge and he decides if there is probable cause to carry out the order.Do you think the judges and prosecutors don't remind the person making the complaint that they will be prosecuted for making false complaints.?Common sense seems to be in short supply,but then the cops are Nazis so why am I surprised.I know red flag laws are difficult to get now, we're still in the honey moon test phase. After it becomes more "mainstream" and commonplace years down the road it won't be so difficult. As time progresses people get conditioned to it, getting a red flag on someone will become easier. If they resist and get shot....the ends have justified the means. Don't you have a problem with that? Yes and no. I don't like someone losing their guns, but at the same time I do think that we need to recognize there are people out there (and not just felons) who shouldn't own guns. It's a slippery slope for sure, but it's something that needs to be addressed. I don't like the category of "mental health", because that could be a catch-all. Shoot, every single human is expected to experience depression in their lifetime. That doesn't mean every single human is suicidal. If, however, they found that certain diagnoses were far more likely to be involved in violent crimes or suicide, I'd lean a little more toward temporary removal of firearms. I can tell you this with full certainty - if uniformed police officers show up at my house and tell me they are there to take my guns, I am going to work with them and get a complete, itemized inventory of everything they are taking. It will be non violent and fully compliant. I will demonstrate to my kids and the people around me that the police officers are doing their jobs and we will still show them respect, despite the frustrating circumstances.After that, I'm going to bankrupt every person involved in court.
So where do you guys draw the line? Are you ok with felons owning guns?