2019 spring bear?

[Goshawk]

As indicated to me by the biologist, Sportsman in Washington are not organized.  We are broken down into competing groups that bicker for increased rights for their subgroup instead of banding together.

If we as a group were to truly stand on common ground, then Weyerhaeuser would still have open gates, Grouse would be under much better management and Timber Companies would invite you to come spring bear hunting on their ground, not make you pay for the privilege of saving them money.

 

[grundy53]

The fall hunt success rate is below 10% in all sections of the state,  the spring success rate is 28% in all sections on average.

The best way to lower bear numbers is that spring hunt, if bear fall below management objectives in certain units then bring back the spring special hunt draw.

I think that is kind of skewed data. A lot, if not a majority of folks that buy bear tags get them "just in case" and because tags are cheap but don't actively hunt bears or do so rarely. Whereas by almost definition the spring permits are going to guys who actually want to hunt bears and put forth an effort.

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[KFhunter]

skewed data is still data if it's consistently skewed ya?


I think the fall and spring success rate has been pretty static year after year, so the data should be still useful.

[grundy53]

skewed data is still data if it's consistently skewed ya?


I think the fall and spring success rate has been pretty static year after year, so the data should be still useful.

I agree. I was just saying I don't think bears are more vulnerable in the spring hunt. They are just being hunted by more dedicated hunters.

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[KFhunter]

Oh ya, for sure. gotcha.

but also keep in mind those serious hunters don't draw every year, so the dedicated bear hunters not selected are taking their share in the fall bumping up that average a tad.   

Those pool of hunters if a spring OTC hunt occured would bump up the spring overall take further, while the fall take could drop some. 

the spring and fall numbers would be useless, so you'd have to just do a yearly average for both seasons. 

[Jonathan_S]

skewed data is still data if it's consistently skewed ya?


I think the fall and spring success rate has been pretty static year after year, so the data should be still useful.

I agree. I was just saying I don't think bears are more vulnerable in the spring hunt. They are just being hunted by more dedicated hunters.

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Depends on the area but sping bears can be extremely visible compared to Sept and Oct 

[trophyhunt]

skewed data is still data if it's consistently skewed ya?


I think the fall and spring success rate has been pretty static year after year, so the data should be still useful.

I agree. I was just saying I don't think bears are more vulnerable in the spring hunt. They are just being hunted by more dedicated hunters.

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Depends on the area but sping bears can be extremely visible compared to Sept and Oct 

I see way more bears in the spring, I've seen 3 or more in a day and one year killed 2 in one day (for the internet police, I killed my dads for him, disabled hunter).  The big boys are out looking for females and will travel a lot during the day, definitely more vulnerable IMHO.

[huntnnw]

skewed data is still data if it's consistently skewed ya?


I think the fall and spring success rate has been pretty static year after year, so the data should be still useful.

I agree. I was just saying I don't think bears are more vulnerable in the spring hunt. They are just being hunted by more dedicated hunters.


I dont completely agree with that. Spring if you hunt too early or the weather on any given hunt can ruin it. Forage can be just about everywhere for bears in the spring. Fast forward to fall theres an urgency to eat calories. If you have knowledge of bear forage and where it is in the area you hunt you can have epic days seeing tons of bears. This is what separates the guys who know how to hunt bears and put time into it. Spring hunts can be for just about anyone with any knowledge base and still find bears as the food is spread out everywhere and the approaching bear rut helps.
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[tgomez]

When is the deadline date for Spring Bear permits this year?

[Antlershed]

When is the deadline date for Spring Bear permits this year?

February 28.

[tgomez]

Thanks

[HoofsandWings]

I am not sure if you noticed for 2019 spring bear, there is a publication.

https://wdfw.wa.gov/hunting/permits/spring_bear/

[KevrosWanderin]

can I buy just a point? with out purchasing anything else??

[Jonathan_S]

can I buy just a point? with out purchasing anything else??

No. You have to buy the application and then submit it for points same as if you wanted to be considered for the drawing

[KevrosWanderin]

can I buy just a point? with out purchasing anything else??

No. You have to buy the application and then submit it for points same as if you wanted to be considered for the drawing

That is how I read it. This is my first year residency in WA. So I am trying to learn.  Thanks for the clarification