collapse

Advertisement


Author Topic: HB 1046 Would Ban WDFW and Other Agencies from Using Dogs to Take Bear & Cougar  (Read 12576 times)

Offline JimmyHoffa

  • Non-Hunting Topics
  • Trade Count: (+2)
  • Explorer
  • ******
  • Join Date: Sep 2010
  • Posts: 14554
  • Location: 150 Years Too Late
Will WDFW be relatively silent on this?  Seems like WDFW and various law enforcement types would be the best to influence the other reps that this bill is a bad idea (cougar part).  Timber companies are best for the bear part.  Find out how much WDFW really likes their Karelian bear dog hazing program.

Offline CementFinisher

  • Washington For Wildlife
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Sourdough
  • *****
  • Join Date: Oct 2010
  • Posts: 1115
  • Location: Spanaway, wa
When the bear depredation program is taken away boot hunters will not get more opportunity or access. you will be locked out during a giant snaring program done by USDA APHIS. Its been done for a while now. but when you remove the hound depredations snaring will be done on a large scale, and you will be locked out so that no picture or video make it out into the public so they can keep the last effective way of protecting their resource.

Offline CementFinisher

  • Washington For Wildlife
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Sourdough
  • *****
  • Join Date: Oct 2010
  • Posts: 1115
  • Location: Spanaway, wa
But I imagine most of you will be in favor of cannibalizing other hunter groups and taking away a productive and useful tool

Offline bearpaw

  • Family, Friends, Outdoors
  • Administrator
  • Trade Count: (+10)
  • Legend
  • *****
  • Join Date: Apr 2009
  • Posts: 38579
  • Location: Idaho<->Colville
  • "Rather Be Cougar Huntin"
    • http://www.facebook.com/DaleDenney
    • Bearpaw Outfitters
  • Groups: NRA, SCI, F4WM, NWTF, IOGA, MOGA, CCOC, BBB, RMEF, WSTA, WSB
Could this work in favor of some sort of public hunting with dogs? If the gov wants to do that they have to allow the public to also?

Just a thought

That was my first thought too, perhaps the consequences of poor predator management (by initiative) need to be felt by everyone, including WDFW and the public who expect WDFW to take care of dangerous predators?

I'm still pondering all the implications!
Americans are systematically advocating, legislating, and voting away each others rights. Support all user groups & quit losing opportunity!

http://bearpawoutfitters.com Guided Hunts, Unguided, & Drop Camps in Idaho, Montana, Utah, and Wash. Hunts with tags available (no draw needed) for spring bear, fall bear, bison, cougar, elk, mule deer, turkey, whitetail, & wolf! http://trophymaps.com DIY Hunting Maps are also offered

Offline Bushcraft

  • Non-Hunting Topics
  • Trade Count: (+3)
  • Sourdough
  • *****
  • Join Date: Aug 2008
  • Posts: 1166
  • Location: Olympic Peninsula
  • Groups: NRA, SCI, NSSF, RMEF, RMGA, MDF, WSF, DU, HHC, WWC, WDAC
Good news!

Let's just say that this insanely stupid bill is as good as dead.  It will likely not be heard by Committee, much less make it out of Committee.   ;)

You can thank SCI and the Hunters Heritage Council by joining us (see links below).  We'd love to have you be a member of the most influential advocate for hunters, hunting and wildlife conservation in Washington State and beyond.

www.safariclub.org

www.huntersheritagecouncil.org

Thanks!

Allen



« Last Edit: December 19, 2018, 03:19:00 PM by Bushcraft »
Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy; its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery. - Winston Churchill

Work hard. Hunt hard. Lift other hunters up.

*Proud supporter of NRA, NRA-ILA SCI, SCIF, SCI-PAC, NSSF, RMEF, RMGA, MDF, WSF, DU, WWA, HHC, WWC

Offline X-Force

  • Solo Hunter
  • Political & Covid-19 Topics
  • Trade Count: (+8)
  • Old Salt
  • ******
  • Join Date: Sep 2007
  • Posts: 5572
 :tup:
People get offended at nothing at all. So, speak your mind and be unapologetic.

Offline ribka

  • Political & Covid-19 Topics
  • Trade Count: (+3)
  • Old Salt
  • ******
  • Join Date: Aug 2008
  • Posts: 5647
  • Location: E side
  • That's what she said
Is conservation NW behind this  anti hunting legislation?

Offline Special T

  • Truth the new Hate Speech.
  • Business Sponsor
  • Trade Count: (+13)
  • Legend
  • *****
  • Join Date: Aug 2009
  • Posts: 25046
  • Location: Skagit Valley
  • Make it Rain!
    • Silver Arrow Bowmen
    • Silver Arrow Bowmen
Is conservation NW behind this  anti hunting legislation?
I heard they were against it...

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G930A using Tapatalk

In archery we have something like the way of the superior man. When the archer misses the center of the target, he turns round and seeks for the cause of his failure in himself. 

Confucius

Offline Bushcraft

  • Non-Hunting Topics
  • Trade Count: (+3)
  • Sourdough
  • *****
  • Join Date: Aug 2008
  • Posts: 1166
  • Location: Olympic Peninsula
  • Groups: NRA, SCI, NSSF, RMEF, RMGA, MDF, WSF, DU, HHC, WWC, WDAC
Is conservation NW behind this  anti hunting legislation?

On the surface...No.  But nothing is as it seems with their constantly conniving crew. Evidently, their wingnut uber-leftist Overlord sporadically caught enough of a clue to try and avoid both donor and legislative suicide.  Too bad, really.
Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy; its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery. - Winston Churchill

Work hard. Hunt hard. Lift other hunters up.

*Proud supporter of NRA, NRA-ILA SCI, SCIF, SCI-PAC, NSSF, RMEF, RMGA, MDF, WSF, DU, WWA, HHC, WWC

Offline Skyvalhunter

  • Washington For Wildlife
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Explorer
  • ******
  • Join Date: Oct 2007
  • Posts: 16012
  • Location: Sky valley/Methow
But I imagine most of you will be in favor of cannibalizing other hunter groups and taking away a productive and useful tool
Just what makes you think that??
The only man who never makes a mistake, is the man who never does anything!!
The further one goes into the wilderness, the greater the attraction of its lonely freedom.

Offline ribka

  • Political & Covid-19 Topics
  • Trade Count: (+3)
  • Old Salt
  • ******
  • Join Date: Aug 2008
  • Posts: 5647
  • Location: E side
  • That's what she said
Is conservation NW behind this  anti hunting legislation?
I heard they were against it...

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G930A using Tapatalk

Well  Mitch Friedman and CNW have stated that hunting with dogs is not ethical

Offline Special T

  • Truth the new Hate Speech.
  • Business Sponsor
  • Trade Count: (+13)
  • Legend
  • *****
  • Join Date: Aug 2009
  • Posts: 25046
  • Location: Skagit Valley
  • Make it Rain!
    • Silver Arrow Bowmen
    • Silver Arrow Bowmen
Is conservation NW behind this  anti hunting legislation?
I heard they were against it...

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G930A using Tapatalk

Well  Mitch Friedman and CNW have stated that hunting with dogs is not ethical
You mean they made a tactical decision to appear more reasonable?

Say it ain't so! Lol

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G930A using Tapatalk

In archery we have something like the way of the superior man. When the archer misses the center of the target, he turns round and seeks for the cause of his failure in himself. 

Confucius

Offline Buckmania

  • Non-Hunting Topics
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Tracker
  • **
  • Join Date: Oct 2008
  • Posts: 41
One step away from anyone using dogs to pursue any animal. Next up, no more bird hunting with your pooch! :stup:

This should have been banned with the hound hunting.  It's ironic (or hypocritical) how many bird hunters voted for the hound ban.

Offline Buckmania

  • Non-Hunting Topics
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Tracker
  • **
  • Join Date: Oct 2008
  • Posts: 41
I'm going to take a devil's advocate position.. hopefully most of you know what that is...

Could this be the best thing long term for sportsmen? Many on here talk about transplanting wolves to Olympia and Seattle so they can experience the love of the wild first hand. Perhaps it is the pain inflicted by this kind of ignorance that could sway public oppinion...  then a cat eats some one and nothing can be done?

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G930A using Tapatalk

Exactly. 

The other thing being missed here is you don't just take a hound off the shelf and poof, it's trees whatever game is being targeted.  Hounds need practice.  There needs to be a pursuit season. Pursuit alone will have a conditioning effect on cougars.

Offline Buckmania

  • Non-Hunting Topics
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Tracker
  • **
  • Join Date: Oct 2008
  • Posts: 41
When the bear depredation program is taken away boot hunters will not get more opportunity or access. you will be locked out during a giant snaring program done by USDA APHIS. Its been done for a while now. but when you remove the hound depredations snaring will be done on a large scale, and you will be locked out so that no picture or video make it out into the public so they can keep the last effective way of protecting their resource.

YEP!!!!!!!

 


* Advertisement

* Recent Topics

Son drawn - Silver Dollar Youth Any Elk - Help? by VickGar
[Yesterday at 09:14:24 PM]


Do folks run their refrigerators on Propane while towing their RV's? by ghosthunter
[Yesterday at 08:23:59 PM]


Sportsman Alliance files petition to Gov Ferguson for removal of corrupt WA Wildlife Commissioners by ghosthunter
[Yesterday at 08:19:18 PM]


Bowfishing on the Snake River by Kingofthemountain83
[Yesterday at 07:57:32 PM]


3-Legged Washington Black Bear by Kingofthemountain83
[Yesterday at 07:53:12 PM]


Cougar Problems Toroda Creek Road Near Bodie by mountainman
[Yesterday at 06:38:52 PM]


AKC Australian Shepherd Puppies by TeacherMan
[Yesterday at 04:26:31 PM]


Lund Fisherman 1800 info/advice by NorseNW
[Yesterday at 04:01:03 PM]


Alaska 2025 by Sitka_Blacktail
[Yesterday at 02:57:51 PM]


Rotator Cuff repair X 2 advice needed by trophyhunt
[Yesterday at 01:59:14 PM]


Looking for a hunting partner by wildfire
[Yesterday at 01:14:37 PM]


More Kings! by 30.06
[Yesterday at 12:08:37 PM]


Muzzleloader scope options by Kingofthemountain83
[Yesterday at 12:05:28 PM]


AUCTION: Custom knife by Alden Cole by jrebel
[Yesterday at 11:53:45 AM]


Stealth Cam QV20 by Kingofthemountain83
[Yesterday at 11:43:44 AM]


Mt. St. Helens Area – Muzzleloader Deer & Elk Advice (Back After 12 Years) by HntnFsh
[Yesterday at 11:12:56 AM]


Calling in August in Western Washington by logola512c
[Yesterday at 10:22:19 AM]


Ross Lake boat launch? by cjjcb
[Yesterday at 10:14:59 AM]


2025 Montana alternate list by Fletch
[Yesterday at 09:44:18 AM]


Mt. St. Helens Goat by hunterednate
[Yesterday at 09:30:03 AM]

SimplePortal 2.3.7 © 2008-2025, SimplePortal