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I don't spend much time predator hunting because I struggle finding time outside of family/work/kid stuff. I tried coyote hunting a couple times around me and it's tough. I've never even seen one while hunting. Over east in the open country is obviously a different story. I've never been interested in shooting a bear but always have a small game tag and a cougar tag just in case a bobcat or cougar ends up in front of me.I know....excuses excuses...
If they offered a Predator Pagage of Small game, Cougar and Bear Id buy it! They did away with the Deer or Elk combo to raise rev. I would love to look at aggregate sales info for the different time periods around policy changes.
Quote from: jackelope on January 03, 2019, 10:11:58 AMI don't spend much time predator hunting because I struggle finding time outside of family/work/kid stuff. I tried coyote hunting a couple times around me and it's tough. I've never even seen one while hunting. Over east in the open country is obviously a different story. I've never been interested in shooting a bear but always have a small game tag and a cougar tag just in case a bobcat or cougar ends up in front of me.I know....excuses excuses...Would predator incentive points help get you out hunting them? If you had an opportunity to to get a multi season PIP tag, or quality buck points..would you chase more predators?
My idea was the Predator Incentive Point System. PIPSShooting various predators would give incentive points to something like a quality buck or elk, the idea is that if a hunter has killed enough predators they've earned that huge buck in a quality unit, during a quality hunt window. The details could be worked out later, I'd just like to get this idea of PIPS out there floating around.
Quote from: KFhunter on January 03, 2019, 10:08:19 AMMy idea was the Predator Incentive Point System. PIPSShooting various predators would give incentive points to something like a quality buck or elk, the idea is that if a hunter has killed enough predators they've earned that huge buck in a quality unit, during a quality hunt window. The details could be worked out later, I'd just like to get this idea of PIPS out there floating around.Bad idea. The last thing this state needs to do is further complicate and expand it's point system. If you want to incentive predator harvest - do something like the foundation for wildlife management and raise private funds to incentive or reimburse those who legally harvest predators.
Quote from: idahohuntr on January 03, 2019, 10:40:27 AMQuote from: KFhunter on January 03, 2019, 10:08:19 AMMy idea was the Predator Incentive Point System. PIPSShooting various predators would give incentive points to something like a quality buck or elk, the idea is that if a hunter has killed enough predators they've earned that huge buck in a quality unit, during a quality hunt window. The details could be worked out later, I'd just like to get this idea of PIPS out there floating around.Bad idea. The last thing this state needs to do is further complicate and expand it's point system. If you want to incentive predator harvest - do something like the foundation for wildlife management and raise private funds to incentive or reimburse those who legally harvest predators. I certainly wouldn't be against F4W version in Washington but I'm not sure how it would work other than possibly coyotes We can't usually take more than one species of big game predator except bear on the west side (limit 2) w4m is paying for wolf trappers, if we ever get to hunt the wolf it won't be more than a special draw or 1 wolf bag limit annually. It's not even easy to just get a coyote derby permit here in WA, coyote madness failed this year, if it was easy (or didn't require a permit in the first place) we'd have yote hunters out there trying to knock down some yotes, possibly even giving our antelope a better chance at keeping fawns. WDFW makes it a complicated and lengthy process. Bearpaw knows more about this than I do. https://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,233490.0.htmlCan anyone imagine WDFW giving a thing like foundation for wildlife management a green light to pay the equivalent of bounties? I'm all ears, instead of crapping on ideas how about coming up with some
Wouldn't they have to get a permit? like a fur handlers permit? Maybe if they didn't resale them. The tribes are buying fish heads, maybe routing this through the tribe somehow would work. Instead of fish heads it could be coyote tails.
I see a lot of talk about wanting the state to do something about predator control. . Yea well even if we get the state to change it will take a couple years for any plan to go into action. Here is what I think is the main problem. How many times have you heard the following from other hunters:I only hunt deerI don't like bear meatI am all for coyote hunting. Please keep killing them for me. I only hunt what I can eatThey're too fast / can't bow hunt themI used to hunt coyotes. I don't like gutting bears. Bears are too cute/likeable. Coyote hunting sounds fun. But I'm too busy this year. I don't want to drive that far for predator huntingWife/girlfriend won't let me kill cats/bearsI like cats, couldn't shoot oneBears/Cougars are too hard without bait/houndsSomeone should do something about the predators
There is only one way to effectively manage predators. And that is to use tools that we are not allowed to use in WA. Such as dogs, bait and steel traps. Without these things there is no such thing as predator control.
I usually do a lot of coyote hunting and the only issue I see is we can’t use foothold traps. I’ve got a million places i’d have traps on my way to work. There’s enough guys out blaring their foxpros, the issue is those that are serious and dedicating days off and weeknights to go call are calling educated dogs. Footholds would be awesome. Hounds for cougar and bear would be great too. Not only be able to harvest more but to be able to identify sex and age before shooting. Smarter and more efficient predator control.