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Re: Troubling Decline in Yakima Elk Herd
« Reply #45 on: September 17, 2019, 10:22:42 AM »
Well when jerky is in demand you need to kill bulls

What's wrong with cows?   :dunno: :dunno:
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Re: Troubling Decline in Yakima Elk Herd
« Reply #46 on: September 17, 2019, 10:24:54 AM »
Well when jerky is in demand you need to kill bulls

What's wrong with cows?   :dunno: :dunno:

I'd guess the problem with cows is it's not a year around season like bulls.

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Re: Troubling Decline in Yakima Elk Herd
« Reply #47 on: September 17, 2019, 10:30:37 AM »
True.
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Re: Troubling Decline in Yakima Elk Herd
« Reply #48 on: September 17, 2019, 11:28:42 AM »
Honest question.  How many cows were harvested under the conflict section? Bull harvest is one element but if you cease production at the factory it's pretty easy to predict the future.

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Re: Troubling Decline in Yakima Elk Herd
« Reply #49 on: September 17, 2019, 11:42:55 AM »
So, you're saying I'm the one always coming out of the Clockum? 
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Re: Troubling Decline in Yakima Elk Herd
« Reply #50 on: September 17, 2019, 11:48:47 AM »
If you are asking me, no.  I'm saying the state hides an entire data set from their own constituents and wants to cast stones. The damage harvest has a significant effect on overall herd health. 

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Re: Troubling Decline in Yakima Elk Herd
« Reply #51 on: September 17, 2019, 11:51:16 AM »
Aaron, Would you be willing to be honest and tell us how many bulls you have killed in the past few years?  Also, when this subject comes up about your jerky business, we want to know why you shoot bulls instead of cows?  Cow meat is much better, imho
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Re: Troubling Decline in Yakima Elk Herd
« Reply #52 on: September 17, 2019, 11:55:41 AM »
Aaron, Would you be willing to be honest and tell us how many bulls you have killed in the past few years?  Also, when this subject comes up about your jerky business, we want to know why you shoot bulls instead of cows?  Cow meat is much better, imho
Can you produce the number of elk harvested in the name of conflict by the state?

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Re: Troubling Decline in Yakima Elk Herd
« Reply #53 on: September 17, 2019, 11:57:36 AM »
Aaron, Would you be willing to be honest and tell us how many bulls you have killed in the past few years?  Also, when this subject comes up about your jerky business, we want to know why you shoot bulls instead of cows?  Cow meat is much better, imho
Can you produce the number of elk harvested in the name of conflict by the state?
i have no clue about that, maybe someone on here knows.
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Re: Troubling Decline in Yakima Elk Herd
« Reply #54 on: September 17, 2019, 12:00:01 PM »
I'm just gonna go ahead and punch in on this one.
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Re: Troubling Decline in Yakima Elk Herd
« Reply #55 on: September 17, 2019, 12:01:43 PM »
I'm just gonna go ahead and punch in on this one.


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Re: Troubling Decline in Yakima Elk Herd
« Reply #56 on: September 17, 2019, 12:05:34 PM »
Cows are better I agree. 
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Re: Troubling Decline in Yakima Elk Herd
« Reply #57 on: September 17, 2019, 12:07:01 PM »
It is a combination of factors.

1.  Increased predators - bear and cougar problem since baiting and hounds were banned

2.  Introduction of wolf - no management plan to speak of

3.  Continued Indian harvest with no intention of pulling back.  I say Indian because I have seen multiple bumper stickers lately that state, “you are on Indian land.”  So if they use the term I guess it is fair  game.

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Re: Troubling Decline in Yakima Elk Herd
« Reply #58 on: September 17, 2019, 12:09:32 PM »
I heard there was a mod party going on over here.

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Re: Troubling Decline in Yakima Elk Herd
« Reply #59 on: September 17, 2019, 12:23:20 PM »
I'd be curious to know if anyone from either side would be willing to have a civil discussion without slinging mud?
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