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[M_ray]

Tagging to see outcome.

[jackelope]

The vet said it was collared on March however the biologist called back and said do not eat it as it was tranquilized last week. Two separate stories on it from the two people who can tell us if it’s fine to eat. The biologist took the elk and dumped it. In the regs it also very clearly states that you are fine to shoot a collared elk. You just need to call and report. All the elk who get tranquilized and tagged are supposed to be done well before hunting season so this issue does not arise. The Stilly tribe is not even located in the area of 407 they are a ways. There was no information on the collar besides it being the Stilly tribes collar.

When you say they dumped it, what do you mean? Specifically. Like....they threw it in the ditch, they took it to a designated place and disposed of it, etc. Preferably facts and not theories.
If it was tranquilized last week, then maybe it's not safe to eat. I don't know the science of it. There are some members of the forum who probably do know and maybe will chime in.

 

[jackelope]

It's probably important to note in all of this that the tribes are one entity and the WDFW is another and i would imagine the tribes don't always know what the WDFW is doing and the WDFW doesn't always know what the tribes are doing.

[SteelheadTed]

I am not sure trying to hash it out here is going to help.  Call WDFW.  There is not prohibition in the regulations to shooting collared elk.

[dwholmes]

Be Sure to check out most recent update edited to original post.

[dwholmes]

I am simply trying to spread the word of this. If they are tranquilizing these animals with drugs that affect them and make them inedible for their lifetime who is to say that these animals aren't passing the stuff in their system to their offspring or to animals that eat it when they die. People put in a lot of time and effort for these elk and to tag one and have it be inedible in my opinion is bs. Even if they give you a new tag.

[Lumpy Taters]

Just read  your update.  Why in the heck would they use something that would render an animal inedible for life on a hunted species!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  That is absolutely ridiculous to put the public in that situation no matter what the reason.  If you need to do this then remove that animal from the population for good.   

[LDennis24]

Thianl I believe is short for Thiafentanyl. This is what they have started using and it is not for animals meant for human consumption! Other tranquilizers are Ketamine with Xylazine used for domestic animals sometimes. Ketamine is used to treat soldiers who are in excruciating pain even. It puts them in another world I hear.

THIAFENTANIL-AZAPERONE-XYLAZINE AND CARFENTANIL-XYLAZINE IMMOBILIZATIONS OF FREE-RANGING CARIBOU (RANGIFER TARANDUS GRANTI) IN ALASKA, USA.
Lian M, et al. J Wildl Dis. 2016.
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Abstract
Carfentanil-xylazine (CX) has been the primary drug combination used for immobilizing free-ranging ungulates in Alaska, US since 1986. We investigated the efficacy of a potential new drug of choice, thiafentanil (Investigational New Animal Drug A-3080). Captive trials indicated that thiafentanil-azaperone-medetomidine could provide good levels of immobilization. However, field trials conducted in October 2013 on free-ranging caribou ( Rangifer tarandus granti) calves showed the combination too potent, causing three respiratory arrests and one mortality. The protocol was revised to thiafentanil-azaperone-xylazine (TAX), with good results. The induction time was not significantly different between the two combinations. However, the recovery time was significantly shorter for the TAX group than for the CX group. A physiologic evaluation was performed on 12 animals immobilized on CX and 15 animals on TAX. Arterial blood was collected after induction and again after 10 min of intranasal oxygen supplements (1 L/min). Both groups had significant increases in partial pressure of arterial oxygen after oxygen treatment. There was a concurrent significant increase in partial pressure of arterial carbon dioxide in both groups. Rectal temperature increased significantly in both groups during the downtime, which is consistent with other studies of potent opioids in ungulates. On the basis of our results, we found TAX to be a potential alternative for the current CX protocol for immobilizing free-ranging caribou calves via helicopter darting

[boneaddict]

Did you get a new tag?

[pianoman9701]

On Thiafentanil oxalate

"M. Indication(s): For immobilization of captive minor species
hoof stock excluding any member of a foodproducing minor species such as deer, elk, or
bison and any minor species animal that may
become eligible for consumption by humans or
food-producing animals."

https://www.fda.gov/media/101533/download

[jaredwitman]

On Thiafentanil oxalate

"M. Indication(s): For immobilization of captive minor species
hoof stock excluding any member of a foodproducing minor species such as deer, elk, or
bison and any minor species animal that may
become eligible for consumption by humans or
food-producing animals."

https://www.fda.gov/media/101533/download

Hmmmm.....

[boneaddict]

Don't advertise to the local junkies that elk might contain opiates........they develop a real case of the munchies

[Pegasus]

Moral to the story is if you shoot a collared elk with a "No Eat" tag in its ear you step away from the carcass and go find yourself another elk to shoot. Problem solved.

[pianoman9701]

Don't advertise to the local junkies that elk might contain opiates........they develop a real case of the munchies

I think I now have devised a plan to reduce hoof disease elk numbers and junkies all at once.

[jstone]

So if a bear eats one of these elk and you kill the bear and eat the bear.? What happens?