More Deer Killed By Wolves Than By Hunters in 2019

[greenhead_killer]

Def planted here. Too random to have certain areas explode with wolves when there were non previous. It’s insane these people(wdfg and pro wolf cronies) continue to lie about them not being planted

[Humptulips]

Why doesn't Colorado have any wolves, yet Washington is loaded with them?


https://www.denverpost.com/2019/07/10/gray-wolf-colorado-wyoming/   

The wolf sighting in northern Colorado was no optical illusion.

Colorado Parks and Wildlife confirmed Wednesday the rare beast to be a from the Snake River pack in Wyoming.

The wolf was last recorded Feb. 12 by transmission signals, parks and wildlife said.

The Wyoming Game and Fishing Department confirmed the reports out of Jackson County, a rural stretch of the state that hugs the Wyoming border.

So what I don't get is Colorado has a few dispersers show up and it makes headline news,  yet Washington somehow has 100's of them pop up in just a short couple of years.   
Colorado should have been fully repopulated by now following what they say about Washington.  It is closer to YNP and WY, which is where it all started ya?



"In Washington State, wolves were not reintroduced, but populations have been reestablished through the natural expansion of the Idaho population"

Why didn't wolves do the same in Colorado   

They had to make a choice Coors or Rainier

[wolfbait]

Washington's wolves are special wolves, they have several "migration" avenues...

[idahohuntr]

Def planted here. Too random to have certain areas explode with wolves when there were non previous. It’s insane these people(wdfg and pro wolf cronies) continue to lie about them not being planted

Wolves were not planted in WA.  That is an undeniable fact - and after decades of wolves not one single credible piece of evidence has ever surfaced to suggest otherwise.  It makes hunters look stupid and absurd when this conspiracy theory is pushed, which is exactly why we should all reject it if we hear fellow hunters making such claims.   

I just don't see how they could have spread so fast in Washington naturally, and not done likewise in Colorado/Utah.

Bob33 basically gave you the answer.  Look at where wolves were re-introduced and the habitat type and prey surrounding those locations and it's pretty logical to see why they moved to NE WA very quickly and not so much to other areas. 

[HUNTINCOUPLE]

Why doesn't Colorado have any wolves, yet Washington is loaded with them?


https://www.denverpost.com/2019/07/10/gray-wolf-colorado-wyoming/   

The wolf sighting in northern Colorado was no optical illusion.

Colorado Parks and Wildlife confirmed Wednesday the rare beast to be a from the Snake River pack in Wyoming.

The wolf was last recorded Feb. 12 by transmission signals, parks and wildlife said.

The Wyoming Game and Fishing Department confirmed the reports out of Jackson County, a rural stretch of the state that hugs the Wyoming border.

So what I don't get is Colorado has a few dispersers show up and it makes headline news,  yet Washington somehow has 100's of them pop up in just a short couple of years.   
Colorado should have been fully repopulated by now following what they say about Washington.  It is closer to YNP and WY, which is where it all started ya?



"In Washington State, wolves were not reintroduced, but populations have been reestablished through the natural expansion of the Idaho population"

Why didn't wolves do the same in Colorado   

They had to make a choice Coors or Rainier

 

[JimmyHoffa]

Wolves can move a long distance fairly quickly.  There are a couple packs in Northern California/Southern Oregon that migrated from the Rockies. 

[wolfbait]

Talking to the folks from Wyoming and Idaho over the years, they said they had never heard of wolves migrating, they had on the other hand  watched the slaughter of ungulates spread wide as the wolves ate their way outward. I think it is referred to as wolves dispersing.

I wonder, was it Scott Fitkin that came out with the first wolf migration?

[boneaddict]

came out with the first wolf migration?

In the back of a white van .....

[KFhunter]

Def planted here. Too random to have certain areas explode with wolves when there were non previous. It’s insane these people(wdfg and pro wolf cronies) continue to lie about them not being planted

Wolves were not planted in WA.  That is an undeniable fact - and after decades of wolves not one single credible piece of evidence has ever surfaced to suggest otherwise.  It makes hunters look stupid and absurd when this conspiracy theory is pushed, which is exactly why we should all reject it if we hear fellow hunters making such claims.   

I just don't see how they could have spread so fast in Washington naturally, and not done likewise in Colorado/Utah.

Bob33 basically gave you the answer.  Look at where wolves were re-introduced and the habitat type and prey surrounding those locations and it's pretty logical to see why they moved to NE WA very quickly and not so much to other areas.

BS

https://www.fws.gov/mountain-prairie/pressrel/11-03.htm

This particular wolf was poisoned.....

2009 Death of Gray Wolf in Colorado Tied to Banned Poison
Law enforcement officials from the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service announced today that the Yellowstone-area gray wolf found dead in Colorado in 2009 was illegally poisoned.

The radio-collared female gray wolf was found near Rio Blanco County Road 60 on April 6, 2009 after researchers received the mortality signal from her GPS tracking collar.  Toxicology tests performed at the National Fish and Wildlife Forensic Laboratory showed the two-year-old gray wolf, which had been captured and collared as part of a Montana research project, died from ingesting a banned poison known as Compound 1080. It is suspected the wolf ingested the poison near the site where she was found.

There's no habitat barrier between YNP and Colorado.  So again, we know wolves have been dispersing into Colorado since wolves were introduced into YNP.   

WHY haven't they taken hold in Colorado like in WA, when Colorado has so much more game and more suitable wolf habitat??

[KFhunter]

There are no current plans to pursue wolf restoration in Colorado, but local and state stakeholders met a few years ago to develop a contingency plan for managing the animals if they return to Colorado on their own.

“It’s encouraging that we have connectivity,” said Rob Edward, of WildEarth Guardians, referring to the wolf’s peregrination to Colorado.



Two more wolves that made it into Colorado but died,  one to unknown and another to vehicle strike
https://www.summitdaily.com/news/yellowstone-wolf-dies-in-colorado/


These are just 3 examples of wolves that met their demise, there's gotta be a whole lot more that did make it into Colorado we don't know about. 

[boneaddict]

Well quite frankly, when they are at "healthy" populations, you wouldn't necessarily be aware of their existence every 5 minutes so to speak.  There have been wolves in the Methow Valley since probably the dawn of time.   All of a sudden there was a trigger and all ________ hit the fan.   

Much can be said about the Cougar population.   There were plenty of cats but they werent seen much, so it left an impression with the unaware that there werent any.   Now they are a dime a dozen, but in reality THATS A PROBLEM


I'm sure there are wolves in Colorado.   There is alot of feed and habitat.   Man.....wants to monkey around and get one standing underneath every lone pine on the hill

[KFhunter]

Finally!


What was the trigger?

[boneaddict]

My guess is they got a bump or several of them. 

Kinda like dumping turkeys here and there.   Sooner or later a couple catch on. Difference being is that Turkeys don't mess with the balance much in the food chain.


We know why the Cat balance went haywire.  I dont think there is a factor that can be pointed at for the wolves other than the elephant in the room.   It can be argued that the increase in cats or bear would seem to have a negative impact on the wolves being able to blossom.   Logically anyways!   Yes, there was the removal of trapping or traditional trapping, but I think its safe to say that there wasnt much impact from Trappers in the Methow on the wolves.

[KFhunter]

I know in GMU 105 WDFW killed the wedge pack, it was the first pack killed in WA and I was all up in it.   I did a ton of scouting around and taking it all in, watching. 


I know where the wolves were killed.  A few months later after all the dust settled all the sudden there was wolf tracks everywhere, tracks from a whole pack of wolves. 

Wolves naturally disperse as singles or maybe even pairs, but this was as if a whole pack left somewhere else and showed up all the sudden in 105

[idahohuntr]

Def planted here. Too random to have certain areas explode with wolves when there were non previous. It’s insane these people(wdfg and pro wolf cronies) continue to lie about them not being planted

Wolves were not planted in WA.  That is an undeniable fact - and after decades of wolves not one single credible piece of evidence has ever surfaced to suggest otherwise.  It makes hunters look stupid and absurd when this conspiracy theory is pushed, which is exactly why we should all reject it if we hear fellow hunters making such claims.   

I just don't see how they could have spread so fast in Washington naturally, and not done likewise in Colorado/Utah.

Bob33 basically gave you the answer.  Look at where wolves were re-introduced and the habitat type and prey surrounding those locations and it's pretty logical to see why they moved to NE WA very quickly and not so much to other areas.

BS

https://www.fws.gov/mountain-prairie/pressrel/11-03.htm

This particular wolf was poisoned.....

2009 Death of Gray Wolf in Colorado Tied to Banned Poison
Law enforcement officials from the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service announced today that the Yellowstone-area gray wolf found dead in Colorado in 2009 was illegally poisoned.

The radio-collared female gray wolf was found near Rio Blanco County Road 60 on April 6, 2009 after researchers received the mortality signal from her GPS tracking collar.  Toxicology tests performed at the National Fish and Wildlife Forensic Laboratory showed the two-year-old gray wolf, which had been captured and collared as part of a Montana research project, died from ingesting a banned poison known as Compound 1080. It is suspected the wolf ingested the poison near the site where she was found.

There's no habitat barrier between YNP and Colorado.  So again, we know wolves have been dispersing into Colorado since wolves were introduced into YNP.   

WHY haven't they taken hold in Colorado like in WA, when Colorado has so much more game and more suitable wolf habitat??

Wolves dont distribute uniformly across landscapes...its pretty logical that wolves havent moved faster or in greater numbers south and east out of ynp and idaho into Co or Ut.  Similar situation in Idaho when you compare North vs. South. 

What's your explanation?  The guys who spray chemtrails in the off season run around releasing secret packs of wolves as part of a conspiracy with state and federal agencies??