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9mm?
« on: January 10, 2020, 11:31:25 AM »
So what ammo would you suggest for 9mm being carried while bow hunting or other outdoor activities. Only have a 9mm for now so looking for the best for these activities.
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Re: 9mm?
« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2020, 11:34:38 AM »
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Re: 9mm?
« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2020, 11:36:57 AM »
 :dunno: its a 9, full mag is best.
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Re: 9mm?
« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2020, 11:39:02 AM »
Are you worried about two or four legs?  If the latter, I would find some hard cast as you will need all the penetration you can get with 9 mm.

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Re: 9mm?
« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2020, 12:00:46 PM »
Here's a great starting point to select some ammo to try in your carry gun of choice.  For the woods, overpenetration (>18") is not a bad thing where you are potentially looking at shooting a bear or a belligerent tweaker wearing heavy clothes.  I'm going to try the Winchester 147g PDX-1 and if it groups and cycles reliably that's likely to be my 9mm woods round: excellent consistent 20"+ penetration in ballistics gel with controlled expansion to .50 cal. 

https://www.luckygunner.com/9-mm-147-gr-jhp-winchester-supreme-elite-bonded-20-rounds#geltest
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Re: 9mm?
« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2020, 12:02:40 PM »
Are you worried about two or four legs?  If the latter, I would find some hard cast as you will need all the penetration you can get with 9 mm.

I guess both if I really think about it. My son and I ride MC in the summer and have run into some how should I say SHADY individuals.
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Re: 9mm?
« Reply #6 on: January 10, 2020, 12:23:23 PM »
When I carried my 9mm, it was virtually exclusively for two leg problems and I used one of a couple of well known and proven rounds.  Law enforcement actual shooting data as well as test data exists and is easy to find.  I would use bear spray as my 1st choice if having animal problems.

Now, I carry a .357 snub usually with hard cast figuring it would at least poke a small hole in a person and get decent penetration on a bear, much better than 9 mm.  This would be 2nd choice with spray still being the go-to.  I don't hunt in grizz areas, so it's more of a feel good thing for the most part.

I'm considering branching out to grizz areas and will likely pick up a 10mm as backup to the spray.

Anyway, more info than asked for but that is my philosophy.
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Re: 9mm?
« Reply #7 on: January 10, 2020, 12:28:17 PM »
When I carried my 9mm, it was virtually exclusively for four leg problems and I used one of a couple of well known and proven rounds.  Law enforcement actual shooting data as well as test data exists and is easy to find.  I would use bear spray as my 1st choice if having animal problems.

Now, I carry a .357 snub usually with hard cast figuring it would at least poke a small hole in a person and get decent penetration on a bear, much better than 9 mm.  This would be 2nd choice with spray still being the go-to.  I don't hunt in grizz areas, so it's more of a feel good thing for the most part.

I'm considering branching out to grizz areas and will likely pick up a 10mm as backup to the spray.

Anyway, more info than asked for but that is my philosophy.

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Re: 9mm?
« Reply #8 on: January 10, 2020, 12:41:53 PM »
Sig V-Crown

This round has actually shown through testing to be a fairly poor self defense round.  If going through clothing,  it really struggles to expand like it is supposed to.  And I am a HUGE fan of Sig, just not this ammo.  My current carry round is 124gr. Speer Gold Dot.

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Re: 9mm?
« Reply #9 on: January 10, 2020, 12:45:22 PM »
Of course that's the opposite of what the sales guy at Sporting Systems told me. Thanks for the info and suggestion.
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Re: 9mm?
« Reply #10 on: January 10, 2020, 01:23:41 PM »
Sig V-Crown

This round has actually shown through testing to be a fairly poor self defense round.  If going through clothing,  it really struggles to expand like it is supposed to.  And I am a HUGE fan of Sig, just not this ammo.  My current carry round is 124gr. Speer Gold Dot.

124 grain XTP, here.  If I remember right, they performed equivalently in penetration and expansion tests.

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Re: 9mm?
« Reply #11 on: January 10, 2020, 01:29:00 PM »
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Re: 9mm?
« Reply #12 on: January 12, 2020, 07:46:47 PM »
Bear load 147 grain Buffalo Bore Outdoorsman.  Fishing guide in Alaska killed a griz with this load.  Good choice if you carry a 9mm.  Cats Wolfs and bad guys many good options, look at the lucky gunner website for extensive ballistics testing.
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Re: 9mm?
« Reply #13 on: January 12, 2020, 08:00:21 PM »
Bear load 147 grain Buffalo Bore Outdoorsman.  Fishing guide in Alaska killed a griz with this load.  Good choice if you carry a 9mm.  Cats Wolfs and bad guys many good options, look at the lucky gunner website for extensive ballistics testing.

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Re: 9mm?
« Reply #14 on: January 12, 2020, 08:02:18 PM »
Bear load 147 grain Buffalo Bore Outdoorsman.  Fishing guide in Alaska killed a griz with this load.  Good choice if you carry a 9mm.  Cats Wolfs and bad guys many good options, look at the lucky gunner website for extensive ballistics testing.

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