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Baiting question.
« on: February 12, 2020, 04:37:49 PM »
As with most of the regulations, it’s clear as mud.  10 gallon bait maximum period, at any time, or only during season while trying to kill with said tag? Ie; I have a muzzleloader loader and have more than 10 gallons of attractant during early archery season with no one hunting? Whatcha say?


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Re: Baiting question.
« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2020, 04:47:35 PM »
I think it's only considered baiting if you are hunting over it. But I'm not an expert.

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Re: Baiting question.
« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2020, 05:39:53 PM »
I have been told by a game warden that it is 10 gallons anytime.

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Re: Baiting question.
« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2020, 05:40:19 PM »
“It is unlawful to HUNT for deer and elk...”

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Re: Baiting question.
« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2020, 05:42:10 PM »
I have been told by a game warden that it is 10 gallons anytime.

Nope.  It clearly says "for the purpose of hunting" for the 10 gal limit.
« Last Edit: February 12, 2020, 06:13:09 PM by Bango skank »

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Re: Baiting question.
« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2020, 06:12:00 PM »
Doesn't it say right there with the intent to hunt.where does it say for the purpose of hunting
That tells me the warden will make that call.
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Re: Baiting question.
« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2020, 06:26:31 PM »
Hmmmm. The penalty is steep, that's why I'm curious

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Re: Baiting question.
« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2020, 06:46:25 PM »
Purpose of attracting deer or elk with the intent to hunt.

I read it as if you have the intent to hunt .
Probably don't want more than ten gallons.
Also game cam,tree stands,any kind of hunting gear left at bait site may be evidence of intent to hunt.
Especially me cause I always carry a gun anyway to check cams and more than likely there is pics of me on the cam with gun.

All honestly I cut livestock saltblocks in half for each bait site.Then I take a small grocery bag of whatever to fresh it up a bit ,when checking cam.But mostly stick with salt products due to bears.

I just want to give the op sound advise.
But life is a risk -reward ,just hope the warden is in a good mood.

I gave my advise I'm out on this topic.
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Re: Baiting question.
« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2020, 06:52:52 PM »
in the game regs "hunt" does not necessarily mean to try and kill....the definition also says to "harass" whatever that means.  we taught hunters ed for many years and part of the class was to have a local game warden (LEO/whatever) come to the class and talk to the students.  This particular guy who just recently released a book that is talked about on this sight said on multiple occasions that his job was to write tickets and it was the judge's job to interpret the laws.  Kinda funny that one time he was there talking to the students and at the same time we also had a warden from Mason county there and they got into a huge argument concerning certain regs and we basically just called it a draw as there was no way this was going to be settled in front of the students.  Same Thurston county warden said that if you had a neoprene type sleeve on your stock that held extra shells he would write you a ticket for having a loaded gun.  I was there, I seen it and heard it and he was serious about writing the ticket.
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Re: Baiting question.
« Reply #9 on: February 12, 2020, 07:30:53 PM »
in the game regs "hunt" does not necessarily mean to try and kill....the definition also says to "harass" whatever that means.  we taught hunters ed for many years and part of the class was to have a local game warden (LEO/whatever) come to the class and talk to the students.  This particular guy who just recently released a book that is talked about on this sight said on multiple occasions that his job was to write tickets and it was the judge's job to interpret the laws.  Kinda funny that one time he was there talking to the students and at the same time we also had a warden from Mason county there and they got into a huge argument concerning certain regs and we basically just called it a draw as there was no way this was going to be settled in front of the students.  Same Thurston county warden said that if you had a neoprene type sleeve on your stock that held extra shells he would write you a ticket for having a loaded gun.  I was there, I seen it and heard it and he was serious about writing the ticket.

Wow.  That Warden needs fired.

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Re: Baiting question.
« Reply #10 on: February 12, 2020, 08:55:53 PM »
Intent seems to be the kicker. Who defines intent?
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Re: Baiting question.
« Reply #11 on: February 12, 2020, 10:03:28 PM »
quite a few people feed animals at their houses with no intent to hunt, Id have a hard time seeing a warden citing someone who isnt hunting. What if said individual doesnt hunt period and has never seen a "hunting regulation booklet"

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Re: Baiting question.
« Reply #12 on: February 13, 2020, 04:50:54 AM »
And just for a quick reference. A 50 pound bag of mineral fits in a 5 gallon bucket. So you can legally put out 100 pounds of mineral.

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Re: Baiting question.
« Reply #13 on: February 13, 2020, 04:57:49 AM »
And just for a quick reference. A 50 pound bag of mineral fits in a 5 gallon bucket. So you can legally put out 100 pounds of mineral.

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I know you can take quite a bit, agreed. :yeah:

I heard few years ago that this law was put in place due to people taking truck loads of apples and such out to the woods .

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Re: Baiting question.
« Reply #14 on: February 13, 2020, 05:49:31 AM »
it is intended for that, I spoke to a warden about it. He said we are not trying to find and cite guys backpacking in stuff, its the dudes with tractors, trucks and trailers dumping 800lb bin s of apples ...umm certain guide outfits was what this was directed at in north central WA.

you cannot possibly regulate alfalfa unless its noticeably a large amount like a full round or large square . You can pack in little bits over time and its going to look 2,000 lbs on the ground. Deer will not eat stems or wet falfa

 


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