Baiting question.

[Skyvalhunter]

So is there that much dumping of apples in that large of a quantity?

[hunter399]

So is there that much dumping of apples in that large of a quantity?

Yes it does happen from time to time.
A lot of it that pushed the law was people dumping apples next to a refuge or private land that they can't hunt .To try and get animals to cross the boundry .

But I have seen it since the law was passed.Seen a guy this last season durring bow season.I was bear hunting started to see few apples in the road here or there ,like a trail of them going down the dirt road.Came around the corner and there is a full pickup load right up to the edge of the bed full of apples.In this guys truck I'm following .we parted way at a y in the road never seen him again.I kinda just looked the other way.I had clearcuts to glass ,so I was a little busy.

[huntnnw]

it happens all over around chelan,methow etc. I know several who can get bins of apples for free

[jackelope]

So is there that much dumping of apples in that large of a quantity?

Yes, for sure. Claims I have heard in the past of mule deer migration routes changing due to dump truck loads of apples. I'm not qualified to know if that's even possible, but that's what I've heard. I know the giant apple dumps happen for sure.

[Buckhunter24]

And just for a quick reference. A 50 pound bag of mineral fits in a 5 gallon bucket. So you can legally put out 100 pounds of mineral.

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10 gallons of compressed alfalfa looks like a lot more than what I expected 10 gallons to look like. So much that I actually take pictures of the bale before and after now so I can show a warden if asked.. its also why I like the meatshelf on a pack, makes getting it back in very easy..

[Cheif]

So on private property, I should be able to use more than the 10 gallons for pictures and to help the wildlife out, right?

[hunter399]

So on private property, I should be able to use more than the 10 gallons for pictures and to help the wildlife out, right?

Game regulations don't stop at the private property line.
But with that said as long as your not giving permission to hunt or running a guide service off of your property.Your probably ok , cause the intent to hunt doesn't really start till hunting season On your own property.

[vandeman17]

So is there that much dumping of apples in that large of a quantity?

Yes, for sure. Claims I have heard in the past of mule deer migration routes changing due to dump truck loads of apples. I'm not qualified to know if that's even possible, but that's what I've heard. I know the giant apple dumps happen for sure.

Seen it first hand. Know it happens

[jackelope]

So on private property, I should be able to use more than the 10 gallons for pictures and to help the wildlife out, right?

Seems like as long as your intent is not to hunt those animals, then go for it.

[OutHouse]

Intent seems to be the kicker. Who defines intent?

That's a good question. Criminal intent is generally defined as acting with the objective of accomplishing the legally prohibited result. So if you put down more than the maximum amount allowed but are objectively not hunting, there is no intent. I think they would have to catch you at the bate site with the present means to hunt i.e. weapon etc. If they wanted to charge you anyway, I suppose you take the stand and explain that you were completely aware that it was in excess of ten gallons but that you had no intention to hunt it until later in the season when the amount was scarffed down to a legal amount. If those were the facts, I'd vote to acquit in a heartbeat.

Update: Found the statute, its RCW 9A.08.010 and defined all types of criminal mental states

[Cheif]

It I get pinched, expect a phone call!!! 

[jackelope]

So let’s say you dump 40 gallons of apples a day all through summer, then sept 1 comes along and you change it up to 5 gallons a day and suddenly a tree stand appears in the maple tree over the Apple pile... does that constitute intent?

[Bango skank]

So let’s say you dump 40 gallons of apples a day all through summer, then sept 1 comes along and you change it up to 5 gallons a day and suddenly a tree stand appears in the maple tree over the Apple pile... does that constitute intent?

Id say so.  Youre habituating the animals to large quantities of bait, then hunting them there.  Those 40 gallons a day were for the purpose of hunting at that point.  Nobody could argue otherwise and actually believe themselves.

[grundy53]

I've never actually hunted over the any of the minerals I've put out for my trail cameras. 🤷‍♂️

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[hunter399]

So let’s say you dump 40 gallons of apples a day all through summer, then sept 1 comes along and you change it up to 5 gallons a day and suddenly a tree stand appears in the maple tree over the Apple pile... does that constitute intent?

If you don't buy a licence until Sept 1 the intent to hunt before hand might be hard to prove and also proves you had no intent till Sept 1.But sadly most of us on here already bought it.

But with some wardens they just write tickets,and try to add some proof to the case.
Pety laws like this one more than likely your gonna talk to prosecutor drop charges with a small fine.Like most wildlife law slap on pp.