City of Bellingham personal rights over step

[KopperBuck]

An important part of the document was left off of the screen shot above.  As I mentioned in the other thread - this is definitely an overreach, but the city council is only voting to authorize the mayor to issue the order at a later date - which the council must then confirm "as soon as possible."

I don’t think it’s that important. “We’re not saying we’re doing it, but we’re giving someone permission to do it, possibly, maybe, down the line...”

That’s *censored*.


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[Ghost Hunter]

  

[Skillet]

An important part of the document was left off of the screen shot above.  As I mentioned in the other thread - this is definitely an overreach, but the city council is only voting to authorize the mayor to issue the order at a later date - which the council must then confirm "as soon as possible."

I don’t think it’s that important. “We’re not saying we’re doing it, but we’re giving someone permission to do it, possibly, maybe, down the line...”

That’s *censored*.


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I think it's pretty darn important.  It's the difference between "After our vote on Monday your 2A rights have been suspended, comrade" and a group of people deciding what tools they want in the tool chest to deal with whatever situation might be coming.

It's up to the law abiding, gun owning and carrying citizenry to let them know if they decide to put the "restrict 2A rights" tool on the table they will pay for it with the loss of their job. 

If they did issue the order would anybody even follow it?  Would the police enforce it?

They could choose to strike the language of the gun and ammo related orders as a concession, but if they really want to do it they will anyway, since the text reads "Such orders include but not be limited to the following:"

A large presence at the meeting demanding explanation of their thinking, and putting the police chief on the hot seat about if and how he would propose to enforce a violation of the 2A would go a long way.

[CP]

I'm not a lawyer, but I don't believe any City has this authority because of our State's preemption wrt firearm laws.

RCW 9.41.290
State preemption.
The state of Washington hereby fully occupies and preempts the entire field of firearms regulation within the boundaries of the state, including the registration, licensing, possession, purchase, sale, acquisition, transfer, discharge, and transportation of firearms, or any other element relating to firearms or parts thereof, including ammunition and reloader components. Cities, towns, and counties or other municipalities may enact only those laws and ordinances relating to firearms that are specifically authorized by state law, as in RCW 9.41.300, and are consistent with this chapter. Such local ordinances shall have the same penalty as provided for by state law. Local laws and ordinances that are inconsistent with, more restrictive than, or exceed the requirements of state law shall not be enacted and are preempted and repealed, regardless of the nature of the code, charter, or home rule status of such city, town, county, or municipality.

[KopperBuck]

An important part of the document was left off of the screen shot above.  As I mentioned in the other thread - this is definitely an overreach, but the city council is only voting to authorize the mayor to issue the order at a later date - which the council must then confirm "as soon as possible."

I don’t think it’s that important. “We’re not saying we’re doing it, but we’re giving someone permission to do it, possibly, maybe, down the line...”

That’s *censored*.


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I think it's pretty darn important.  It's the difference between "After our vote on Monday your 2A rights have been suspended, comrade" and a group of people deciding what tools they want in the tool chest to deal with whatever situation might be coming.

It's up to the law abiding, gun owning and carrying citizenry to let them know if they decide to put the "restrict 2A rights" tool on the table they will pay for it with the loss of their job. 

If they did issue the order would anybody even follow it?  Would the police enforce it?

They could choose to strike the language of the gun and ammo related orders as a concession, but if they really want to do it they will anyway, since the text reads "Such orders include but not be limited to the following:"

A large presence at the meeting demanding explanation of their thinking, and putting the police chief on the hot seat about if and how he would propose to enforce a violation of the 2A would go a long way.

So you’re saying the thought or idea of it isn’t a problem?


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[KopperBuck]

And I don’t believe this would go anywhere. But I ain’t real keen on the even having the discussion.


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[3nails]

It wouldn't surprise me if they tried something like this in Bellingham, I cant find that document on any of the city of Bellingham sites. Do you have a link to it??

Yeah, always referred to it a Bellingrad.

Bellinghamistan.

[Skillet]

An important part of the document was left off of the screen shot above.  As I mentioned in the other thread - this is definitely an overreach, but the city council is only voting to authorize the mayor to issue the order at a later date - which the council must then confirm "as soon as possible."

I don’t think it’s that important. “We’re not saying we’re doing it, but we’re giving someone permission to do it, possibly, maybe, down the line...”

That’s *censored*.


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I think it's pretty darn important.  It's the difference between "After our vote on Monday your 2A rights have been suspended, comrade" and a group of people deciding what tools they want in the tool chest to deal with whatever situation might be coming.

It's up to the law abiding, gun owning and carrying citizenry to let them know if they decide to put the "restrict 2A rights" tool on the table they will pay for it with the loss of their job. 

If they did issue the order would anybody even follow it?  Would the police enforce it?

They could choose to strike the language of the gun and ammo related orders as a concession, but if they really want to do it they will anyway, since the text reads "Such orders include but not be limited to the following:"

A large presence at the meeting demanding explanation of their thinking, and putting the police chief on the hot seat about if and how he would propose to enforce a violation of the 2A would go a long way.

So you’re saying the thought or idea of it isn’t a problem?


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The thought or idea of what, specifically? A disaster declaration?

[ghosthunter]

Bellingham has lots of gun owners. It will never get enforced.

But the fact they are willing to even write on paper as a agenda item should not go un challenged.
They should hear the discontent of Bellingham gun owners and Whatcom county full force.

So next time it’s not even on the agenda.

Hope they made plans for a larger meeting hall. Oh that’s right no public allowed because V concerns.
Burn up their phones.

[Skillet]

Bellingham has lots of gun owners. It will never get enforced.

But the fact they are willing to even write on paper as a agenda item should not go un challenged.
They should hear the discontent of Bellingham gun owners and Whatcom county full force.

So next time it’s not even on the agenda.

Hope they made plans for a larger meeting hall. Oh that’s right no public allowed because V concerns.
Burn up their phones.

   Take a seat at the table and be a part of the conversation-

In fact, to get you Bellingham residents started, here you go:

Mayor Seth Fleetwood
Phone: (360) 778-8100
Fax: (360) 778-8101
Email: mayorsoffice@cob.org

City Council
Phone: (360) 778-8200
Fax: (360) 778-8101
Email: ccmail@cob.org

Individual City council members contact info can be found here:

https://www.cob.org/gov/council/Pages/contacts-bios.aspx

[Ridgeratt]

Could this be because the amount of people purchasing guns and ammunition. With the folks who are spinning out over no none skid.
Wonder if there's a fear of random fights and some one pulls a gun.
I don't think that the amount of people buying guns are all Republicans.

I don't agree with it.  But just trying to make sense of the situation.

[aaronoto]

The law is already on the books, it has been since 1977.  They aren't voting on whether they can take your rights away, the municipal code already gives them that authority.  What they are voting on are some procedural changes in who/how it can be carried out.

[Cougartail]

I'm not a lawyer, but I don't believe any City has this authority because of our State's preemption wrt firearm laws.

RCW 9.41.290
State preemption.
The state of Washington hereby fully occupies and preempts the entire field of firearms regulation within the boundaries of the state, including the registration, licensing, possession, purchase, sale, acquisition, transfer, discharge, and transportation of firearms, or any other element relating to firearms or parts thereof, including ammunition and reloader components. Cities, towns, and counties or other municipalities may enact only those laws and ordinances relating to firearms that are specifically authorized by state law, as in RCW 9.41.300, and are consistent with this chapter. Such local ordinances shall have the same penalty as provided for by state law. Local laws and ordinances that are inconsistent with, more restrictive than, or exceed the requirements of state law shall not be enacted and are preempted and repealed, regardless of the nature of the code, charter, or home rule status of such city, town, county, or municipality.

And the State must follow the US Constitution and federal law as it preempts State regulation.

[JimmyHoffa]

Could this be because the amount of people purchasing guns and ammunition. With the folks who are spinning out over no none skid.
Wonder if there's a fear of random fights and some one pulls a gun.
I don't think that the amount of people buying guns are all Republicans.

I don't agree with it.  But just trying to make sense of the situation.

A few people I know (Bernie supporters) thought the virus would never get here and we had all the tech to control it.  Now seeing that it is here, they can't go out, finding food is tougher, I guess they're kind of thinking if things have slid that far already, maybe it really can completely crash?  They were asking me last week about how to get rifles with scopes like they use on Xbox.  These are guys that have been anti-gun until last week (they wanted Canadian gun rules).   So, there's a new who wanting guns.