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It's very hard for me to believe they didn't know they were on a National Wildlife Refuge. Having Onx and claiming they only knew it was public land seems like a pre-planned excuse.
Quote from: bobcat on May 05, 2020, 09:25:35 PMIt's very hard for me to believe they didn't know they were on a National Wildlife Refuge. Having Onx and claiming they only knew it was public land seems like a pre-planned excuse.There's plenty of National Wildlife Refuges you can hunt, fish, camp, etc. on. And then there's others which are completely closed to access, or where significant portions are closed. That's what makes NWRs different then USFS, BLM, DNR, etc.I will say (and not in these guys defense) that is amazing how many people overly rely on OnX now. People see fed/state land and just automatically assume it's open for XYZ because hey it's state/fed land. That's the problem with the over reliance on technology now.
Quote from: bigtex on May 05, 2020, 09:31:07 PMQuote from: bobcat on May 05, 2020, 09:25:35 PMIt's very hard for me to believe they didn't know they were on a National Wildlife Refuge. Having Onx and claiming they only knew it was public land seems like a pre-planned excuse.There's plenty of National Wildlife Refuges you can hunt, fish, camp, etc. on. And then there's others which are completely closed to access, or where significant portions are closed. That's what makes NWRs different then USFS, BLM, DNR, etc.I will say (and not in these guys defense) that is amazing how many people overly rely on OnX now. People see fed/state land and just automatically assume it's open for XYZ because hey it's state/fed land. That's the problem with the over reliance on technology now.Well the biggest assumption on state land is the state sells access discover pass ,sooo it should be open.
Quote from: hunter399 on May 05, 2020, 10:48:33 PMQuote from: bigtex on May 05, 2020, 09:31:07 PMQuote from: bobcat on May 05, 2020, 09:25:35 PMIt's very hard for me to believe they didn't know they were on a National Wildlife Refuge. Having Onx and claiming they only knew it was public land seems like a pre-planned excuse.There's plenty of National Wildlife Refuges you can hunt, fish, camp, etc. on. And then there's others which are completely closed to access, or where significant portions are closed. That's what makes NWRs different then USFS, BLM, DNR, etc.I will say (and not in these guys defense) that is amazing how many people overly rely on OnX now. People see fed/state land and just automatically assume it's open for XYZ because hey it's state/fed land. That's the problem with the over reliance on technology now.Well the biggest assumption on state land is the state sells access discover pass ,sooo it should be open.There's more state agencies then simply WDFW, DNR, or State Parks that manage state lands. Last year a couple guys got busted for hunting "state lands" that were actually managed by the Department of Social and Health Services as part of a healthcare facility. But on OnX it simply said "State of WA."
Some inside info on this shed hunting case.The initial report was that these individuals had trespassed onto private property and then onto the National Wildlife Refuge. Turns out that these shed hunters actually talked to the family who owns the private land and obtained permission to shed hunt on their land. Problem is, this is a big family and another family member saw the individuals trespassing (didn't know their relative granted permission) and wanted them charged with trespassing.Regarding the trespassing on the refuge, the shed hunters looked on OnX and saw it as public land and thought they were good to go.None of the shed hunters have had previous state/federal wildlife violations. They will be cited for trespassing on a national wildlife refuge.
Quote from: bigtex on May 05, 2020, 08:54:36 PMSome inside info on this shed hunting case.The initial report was that these individuals had trespassed onto private property and then onto the National Wildlife Refuge. Turns out that these shed hunters actually talked to the family who owns the private land and obtained permission to shed hunt on their land. Problem is, this is a big family and another family member saw the individuals trespassing (didn't know their relative granted permission) and wanted them charged with trespassing.Regarding the trespassing on the refuge, the shed hunters looked on OnX and saw it as public land and thought they were good to go.None of the shed hunters have had previous state/federal wildlife violations. They will be cited for trespassing on a national wildlife refuge.You're telling me these guys got slapped with an up to $500 fine for shed hunting hanford is all?
Quote from: bigtex on May 05, 2020, 08:54:36 PMSome inside info on this shed hunting case.The initial report was that these individuals had trespassed onto private property and then onto the National Wildlife Refuge. Turns out that these shed hunters actually talked to the family who owns the private land and obtained permission to shed hunt on their land. Problem is, this is a big family and another family member saw the individuals trespassing (didn't know their relative granted permission) and wanted them charged with trespassing.Regarding the trespassing on the refuge, the shed hunters looked on OnX and saw it as public land and thought they were good to go.None of the shed hunters have had previous state/federal wildlife violations. They will be cited for trespassing on a national wildlife refuge.Not very believable especially since one of the perps had complained about already getting caught previously for the same thing.