WDFW Mule Deer Survey

[huntnphool]

 What do you guys think of the WDFW Mule Deer Survey, compared to the Whitetail Survey?

[Bango skank]

Did not receive.  Whats the gist of it?

[huntnnw]

neither have I

[Ridgerunner]

Perhaps that was the point?  I didnt get one either. 

[Karl Blanchard]

Perhaps that was the point?  I didnt get one either.

this!    probably because they know what the answer is but don't have the spine to do anything.

[huntnphool]

Perhaps that was the point?  I didnt get one either.

this!    probably because they know what the answer is but don't have the spine to do anything.

 Correct!

 Does anybody else see this as troubling?

[TriggerMike]

I didn't get the E-Mail. WTF??

[BearCreekCookBook]

Maybe if we accuse WDFW of being racist against deer of color they’ll take us seriously.

[Jonathan_S]

Must have sent it to the same pool of people who are considered for the incentive deer tags.

[hunter399]

I didn't get the E-Mail. WTF??

I didn't get one ,what the crap is going on.

[BearCreekCookBook]

I didn't get the E-Mail. WTF??

I didn't get one ,what the crap is going on.

There is no email. There is no survey. That is the problem... herds are in terrible condition and WDFW is silent.

[huntnnw]

While everyone got the whitetail survey , I got a email about 4 days later

[Rainier10]

I haven't received mine yet but when I do I am voting for a more liberal season and to abolish all antler point restrictions. 

[huntnphool]

I haven't received mine yet but when I do I am voting for a more liberal season and to abolish all antler point restrictions. 

 

[Bango skank]

Have people been pushing for changes in mule deer management?  This whitetail thing has come about from a lot of people hounding wdfw to reimplement the apr.  Same reason our antlerless harvest was removed.  If people have good ideas about mule deer reg reform, id be interested to hear them.  I dont really know mule deer, but its easy to see the numbers up here declining up in the mountains.  Areas that used to have a halfway decent number of muleys now have very few, some areas theyre flat out gone.  Not sure what could be done at this point as far as changes to mule deer regs (not predator changes, though i know predation needs addressed more), that might help recovery.

[Rainier10]

I feel like three point minimum helped.  I can't help but think a 4pt minimum would help even more.  What would really help is stiffer penalties for shooting illegal deer and more enforcement.  Having to choose BT, WT or MD would help.  Odd numbered last digit of wild ID hunting odd years and even last digit hunting even years would help. Permit only for MD would help but that is the last thing I want to see.  That really takes away opportunity.  Everything I mentioned before is what I would like to see with permit only being the last resort.

[Bango skank]

Id definitely be on board for changing regs to not count browtines, in hopes that it would greatly decrease the number of sublegal deer that get shot.  Id also like to see the requirement to choose a species.  And id REALLY like to see wdfws harvest reports actually specify mule deer and whitetail harvest, its crazy that they dont.

[bigmacc]

I feel like three point minimum helped.  I can't help but think a 4pt minimum would help even more.  What would really help is stiffer penalties for shooting illegal deer and more enforcement.  Having to choose BT, WT or MD would help.  Odd numbered last digit of wild ID hunting odd years and even last digit hunting even years would help. Permit only for MD would help but that is the last thing I want to see.  That really takes away opportunity.  Everything I mentioned before is what I would like to see with permit only being the last resort.

Im a big advocate of the odd-even system, thats all they need to do IMHO, no 4pt restrictions, leave at 3pt, if they go to 4pt then I,ll being finding big, dead, rotting 2points AND 3points.

[sjhgraysage]

I spent a little time searching around the WDFW website looking for a mule deer survey. I didn't see anything like a survey that I could access.
I did get the email for the Whitetail survey, and responded for that, nothing in my email so far about anything related to mule deer....

[Rainier10]

Again I believe this post was being sarcastic.

There is no mule deer survey only a whitetail survey.

[Bango skank]

Nwwg made a whitetail survey, put it in various places around the ne corner.  Around 800 people filled it out and 78% supported the whitetail apr.  These surveys were then handed over to wdfw.  It is this kind of stuff that causes wdfw to consider making changes suggested by the public.  This is why these whitetail changes are proposed now.  If somebody has a good plan to change mule deer regs, do something like this.  Get public input and support for your idea, present to wdfw, get the ball rolling.  We may see a mule deer survey from wdfw if somebody gets something like this going.  If we dont push them on a subject, dont expect them to be proactive in fixing our hunting.  As long as we all keep giving them money, they have no need to change anything without being pushed into it.