Floorless tipi style shelter concerns

[Rob]

Picked up a liner for my Cimarron during the Seek Blem sale last week.  Weighs in at 8oz.  Might have a chance to try it during Spring bear.

[Chesapeake]

Haven't had the real bad condensation issues with my Black Diamond Mega-light, but it has a decent vent at the top and I pitch with the walls up a few inches.

One time I camped up in volcanic ash sand type stuff in the wind. That sucked bad. Was no way to get the walls pinned down tight enough to keep sand from blowing in. I had sand in everything.

The TP's and tarps are great for being light and as a minimal shelter, and if you have a stove. But they aren't for everyone, and every situation.

Depending on the ground and how much you care for your sleeping pad, ect... you'll want a ground cloth of some type. This adds weight, as does a bug net nest. Then if you want to leave the tent up while you hunt you might need to bring the pole, or give up your trekking poles, or maybe cut a stick.

[JeffRaines]

One of these days I’ll brainstorm a “best of both worlds” shelter. Lightweight, double wall, wood stove capable. Something like putting a stove jack in a Hilleberg Anjan GT or similar shelter. You can have a small stove for drying stuff out when you want it(and let’s face it, packable wood stoves aren’t built to run all night so it dont matter if it’s small as it’s gonna go out when you stop feeding it anyhow), and the double wall to keep the inevitable condensation off your gear. I’m not sure where lightweight fits in - perhaps there’s a similar shelter made with lighter materials.

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[huntnnw]

One of these days I’ll brainstorm a “best of both worlds” shelter. Lightweight, double wall, wood stove capable. Something like putting a stove jack in a Hilleberg Anjan GT or similar shelter. You can have a small stove for drying stuff out when you want it(and let’s face it, packable wood stoves aren’t built to run all night so it dont matter if it’s small as it’s gonna go out when you stop feeding it anyhow), and the double wall to keep the inevitable condensation off your gear. I’m not sure where lightweight fits in - perhaps there’s a similar shelter made with lighter materials.

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KUIU refuge is this.. stove capable, light, removable floor and I have never had condensation in it

[Rob]

Seems like a U shaped floor zipper that allows the stove to sit on bare ground when desired for use would be all that is needed. 

My Cablelas Big-horn has this setup

[farmin4u_98948]

One of these days I’ll brainstorm a “best of both worlds” shelter. Lightweight, double wall, wood stove capable. Something like putting a stove jack in a Hilleberg Anjan GT or similar shelter. You can have a small stove for drying stuff out when you want it(and let’s face it, packable wood stoves aren’t built to run all night so it dont matter if it’s small as it’s gonna go out when you stop feeding it anyhow), and the double wall to keep the inevitable condensation off your gear. I’m not sure where lightweight fits in - perhaps there’s a similar shelter made with lighter materials.

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I know of a Fireman in Bellingham that custom makes what you are envisioning.   They are not cheap    http://www.wildsidesystems.com/

[Fl0und3rz]

Those look pretty slick.  Pretty similar to SO arrangements, except for more ventilation at the top, and, of course, the full floor and inner liner.

[RookieBow1967]

I use a seek outside cimmaron and I love it. The condensation issue was annoying until I put silicone waterproofer on the inside. I have used it year round but don't recommend it for summers unless you have the nest. I don't have a stove yet but I do use a buddy heater in the winter and it works great.

Due to being easy to setup, I take it with me when I go fishing to get out of the rain and wind. You can set it up just about any where. Even on rocky areas just use rocks to hold the tent rather than stakes.

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[jstone]

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[92xj]

I enjoy my cimarron and enjoy the floorless shelters.  Pitch it correctly and condensation is not a big issue at all.  Even in green, moist grass with rain and hail storms, this setup stayed dry. 

[snake]

I enjoy my cimarron and enjoy the flourless shelters.  Pitch it correctly and condensation is not a big issue at all.  Even in green, moist grass with rain and hail storms, this setup stayed dry. 

Whats the secret? Any tips?

[pd]

@rookiebow1967

I also have the Cimarron.  Tell us how you applied silicon to the inside.  (My teepee has factory seam sealing, but that is only on the seams, right?)

[RookieBow1967]

So I do have the factory seam sealing as well. But on the inside I used a heavy duty spray silicone, the brand is sofsole. I have not had any issues with condensation since that point. Also as stated earlier by 92xj pitching the tent with air gaps at the bottom helps as well.

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[pickardjw]

Seek Outside also has some videos with tips for reducing condensation. Generally it's pitch with an air gap at the bottom. A running stove will also keep the condensation off of the majority of the inner wall.

The silicone spray is one I've never heard...might look into that.

[3dvapor]

New proto type pellet burner I've built for my red cliff.  It's more for truck camping but burns all night and no stoking fire constantly.  I've used it so far up to 8,000ft. Elevation made very little difference which was good.