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Re: Suppressors
« Reply #75 on: April 24, 2022, 07:18:08 AM »
Im few days behind on updates but, here’s another one that came back approved in just over three months.




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Re: Suppressors
« Reply #76 on: April 24, 2022, 08:02:49 AM »
These updates are killing me. I’m over 10 months now :'(

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Re: Suppressors
« Reply #77 on: April 24, 2022, 08:14:20 AM »
The ones that are coming back so quickly, are they more trust or individual filings?  I didn't read through all of this so if this was previously mentioned my apologies.

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« Reply #78 on: April 24, 2022, 09:03:27 AM »
The ones that are coming back so quickly, are they more trust or individual filings?  I didn't read through all of this so if this was previously mentioned my apologies.

The most recent approvals ~90 days have been with trusts. The few that filed as individual were under 80 days.

These updates are killing me. I’m over 10 months now :'(

Then it must be time to get another and make them race. :)


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Re: Suppressors
« Reply #79 on: April 24, 2022, 10:31:20 AM »
The ones that are coming back so quickly, are they more trust or individual filings?  I didn't read through all of this so if this was previously mentioned my apologies.
The most recent approvals ~90 days have been with trusts. The few that filed as individual were under 80 days.

Dang, that's fast and considering I'm at a year and counting waiting on three more from Silencer Central that is soooo painful to read.  :cryriver:





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Re: Suppressors
« Reply #80 on: April 24, 2022, 01:17:09 PM »
At this point, I think most people could get them in time for deer and elk. Anyone that jumped on it now could have it approved before bear season.


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Re: Suppressors
« Reply #81 on: May 10, 2022, 01:17:04 PM »
I had a few minutes this morning to compare some 6.8 SPC 90gr Speer handloads with Hornady Black 6.8 SPC 110gr V-Max while shooting suppressed. The Speer bullets are from a bulk pack I bought a couple years ago and now got around to testing them against a factory round. They are just practice rounds and never intended to be used to precision shooting because the were cheap compared to the Barnes TTSX I normally load and shoot for hunting.

I decided to shoot the handloads first and get the barrel warmed up before shooting the Hornady. I wanted to see a clear group of each so I aimed at the center with the handloads and  aimed at the left 9 while shooting the Hornady.

Even with the barrel warmed up, the Hornady grouped nicely, much better than my loads.


There’s definitely more through testing that can be done however, this showed me all I really wanted to see for this distance.

Rifle of choice: 6.8 SPC that built a few years ago. Topped off with a Dead Air Nomad Ti.

 


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Re: Suppressors
« Reply #82 on: June 14, 2022, 04:15:12 PM »
Approved e-Form 4s are steadily rolling in.




 
 

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« Reply #83 on: July 31, 2022, 12:02:02 AM »
I’ve been asked about accuracy, changing loads with the addition of a suppressor, and have a few examples to share.

Here’s is a 200yd group from my 6.8 SPC AR as of this week with hand loads that I didn’t not change from previous unsuppressed development. Suppressor used is a Dead Air Nomad Ti with the Xeno mount




Here is an example of a 458 SOCOM AR rifle being suppressed with a direct thread Dead Air Primal. 325gr supers, one shot to check the hold over, two subsequent shots.






This rifle uses a Eotech XPS3-2 which has two 1 MOA dots within the 68 MOA ring. The center dot is 10.5 MOA above the lower dot. I used the lower dot as my aiming point. The center dot is zeroed to 100yds. This load had to be worked up because shooting max 458 SOCOM loads suppressed without an adjustable gas block is BIGLY not enjoyable.


I also shoot subs with the rifle using the lower dot at 100yds


At one point I decided to try the Silencer Co ASR mount and muzzle break with the Primal. That did not work out well for subs.



Supers were fine however, I went back to the direct thread.


On to 300WM with the same Dead Air Noma Ti and Xeno mount with a Remington 700. I’ve been having problems with my loads becoming hard to extract. Despite having worked up a new load a few months ago.


That load shot well and extracted just fine. Recently when I went to make more, and consistently needed a hammer to get the dbolt to move rearward. I tried a number of things to correct the issue but nothing worked. Not having a lot of free time before the seasons roll in, I decided to get some factory ammo because factory ammo shoots AND  extracts with ease. I will be revisiting this soon.


The Dead Air Nomad Ti is also pulling duty on my Savage 10 in .308. It’s an older model and recently began to not fire my loads, just dent the primer. (I’m replacing the firing pin assembly after the parts arrive.) Again, not having a bunch of free time, I got some factory ammo from Sportsman’s and was quite surprised. If the four different loads I shot, the Nosler 165gr Accubond Trophy Grade did quite well.


Above is showing you two groups from the Trophy Grade. One measured and one marked “TG”




The top circle target shows two groups using the Nosler Trophy Grade. I decided to measure the larger of the two instead of the smallest. It gives me a mindset of what to work from and what to work toward.

Please pardon my ignorant measuring. At the time I didn’t know that groups needed to be measured center to center. Until this week, I never got into measuring groups with calipers.



Even though it’s too late to get a suppressor for the upcoming seasons, it’s a good time to get your paperwork in so that you can get your suppressor in hand before spring 2023.

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Re: Suppressors
« Reply #84 on: July 31, 2022, 08:47:50 AM »
I ordered mine thru Wades Bellevue in January and I still don't have it. Waiting final notification from ATF the stamp is ready.
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Re: Suppressors
« Reply #85 on: July 31, 2022, 09:04:54 AM »
I ordered mine thru Wades Bellevue in January and I still don't have it. Waiting final notification from ATF the stamp is ready.
I’m sorry to hear that. Everyone’s situation will be different. All of my January submittals have received a response.

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Re: Suppressors
« Reply #86 on: August 21, 2022, 02:08:39 PM »
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Re: Suppressors
« Reply #87 on: August 21, 2022, 02:39:38 PM »
I am happy to report that I got my Thunderbeast Ultra 7, after 13 exact months since my tax stamp was cashed!

I had already started load development with my 300wsm and found a load I liked enough for now, with time running low before the busy hunting season. I strapped the suppressor on and had no point of impact shift or effect on group size and accuracy. Recoil is further reduced and felt recoil has changed. It’s hard to described to someone who hasn’t shot a suppressed rifle. It’s more of a push vs a swift kick. It’s awesome is all I can say. Plus the suppressed sound main bonus.

This is a group of 4 shots at 622 yards the other day in a decent wind. 3 stacked on the right there within 1.5 inches.

If you haven’t considered a suppressor or are trying to decide, just do it! The e-file process is much quicker than before.



 


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« Reply #88 on: August 21, 2022, 03:12:40 PM »
I am happy to report that I got my Thunderbeast Ultra 7, after 13 exact months since my tax stamp was cashed!

I had already started load development with my 300wsm and found a load I liked enough for now, with time running low before the busy hunting season. I strapped the suppressor on and had no point of impact shift or effect on group size and accuracy. Recoil is further reduced and felt recoil has changed. It’s hard to described to someone who hasn’t shot a suppressed rifle. It’s more of a push vs a swift kick. It’s awesome is all I can say. Plus the suppressed sound main bonus.

This is a group of 4 shots at 622 yards the other day in a decent wind. 3 stacked on the right there within 1.5 inches.

If you haven’t considered a suppressor or are trying to decide, just do it! The e-file process is much quicker than before.



 


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I bought my ultra 7 last month! Can’t wait. I e filed so I’m hoping just another couple months and it will be clear to take home

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Re: Suppressors
« Reply #89 on: August 21, 2022, 03:59:27 PM »
The most recent approval I received took six months.

 


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