Mt. Whittier camping

[Gwhjenkins]

If a guy draws a mt. Whittier or Norway pass tag, does it come with a camping permit?
I’ve tried calling but can’t get ahold of anyone.

[High Climber]

No it doesn’t.

[X-Force]

No permit, you have to jump on early and register just like everyone else. Very difficult with the quality tags, not as difficult with the bull tags.

[Bullkllr]

As stated, definitely not. For getting a camping permit, the later the better your chances. All the September dates and nearly all of the October ones were reserved last year by the time hunting permits were announced.

[millerwheeler]

Man I’m glad I read this and there are no dates in a lot of those places available during muzzle always have wanted to do that hunt or one of them

[Jake T]

What happens if you just find a spot and throw out a bedroll?  I’m just thinking that there are probably guidelines stating that you have to stay on trail wile in the area, but that’s not really feasible for hunting. So maybe the same logic applies to sleeping spots?

[fireweed]

What happens if you just find a spot and throw out a bedroll?  I’m just thinking that there are probably guidelines stating that you have to stay on trail wile in the area, but that’s not really feasible for hunting. So maybe the same logic applies to sleeping spots?

no.  The monument is hyper about anyone camping in that area unless in one of their special spots.  And their "camps" aren't great either.  I had Mt Whittier and just hiked in everyday two extra miles.  Weather was awful with blizzards that pushed the elk down and out.  I  did have a permit to camp but didnt use it.  Norway Pass you could camp in the green timber areas without a permit.  The rules are fuzzy here, the Monument master plan says permits aren't needed in green timber, but the Managers and signs might say you need one.

[Bullkllr]

What happens if you just find a spot and throw out a bedroll?  I’m just thinking that there are probably guidelines stating that you have to stay on trail wile in the area, but that’s not really feasible for hunting. So maybe the same logic applies to sleeping spots?

no.  The monument is hyper about anyone camping in that area unless in one of their special spots.  And their "camps" aren't great either.  I had Mt Whittier and just hiked in everyday two extra miles.  Weather was awful with blizzards that pushed the elk down and out.  I  did have a permit to camp but didnt use it.  Norway Pass you could camp in the green timber areas without a permit.  The rules are fuzzy here, the Monument master plan says permits aren't needed in green timber, but the Managers and signs might say you need one.

The rules vary in different areas of the monument. It is complicated and takes some research to stay within the rules for different areas.
What I found: in the "Mt. Margaret Backcountry" where Norway Pass and Mt. Whittier permits are, you can go anywhere off trail,but you need a permit to camp at one of the designated campsites- otherwise no camping allowed. You can camp anywhere north of the Green River anywhere, anytime as that is outside of the backcountry area boundary.
https://www.fs.usda.gov/recarea/giffordpinchot/recarea/?recid=41618

Smith Creek/Pumice Plains/etc. are not in the same area and have their own rules.

[jstone]

Boy they like to make it complicated

[Bullkllr]

 

FWIW, the 1st open date at any of the campsites right now is October 21. It gets a bit better after that.

[metlhead]

Spent Friday up there. Forget the permit. Apparently you can camp in parks, schools, or anywhere else for that matter for free. Done doing the right thing and forking over my earned money.

[metlhead]

Excuse that last post. A certain buddy is gonna receive a thumpin

[Dark2Dark]

I signed in the first day permits were for sale to buy a few just in case. Almost the entire year sold out in an hour or two.

I have some campsites in Norway Pass if myself or any of my hunting partners get lucky and draw!

[Gwhjenkins]

Hopefully someone will offer their permits if they don’t draw.
Good luck everyone and thank you.

[millerwheeler]

What are they gonna do if you throw out a bedroll and sleep if you draw tag I mean won’t be a camp just sleeping  I dunno seams like they should make some spots  for the tag holders is all