You Can No Longer Hunt Coyote With Hounds....

[jackelope]

they do in some states like the southern east side of the country. people use dogs to hunt deer there. it's a legal hunting practice.

[jackelope]

moss follows everyone on this site....

[mossback91]

follow you?
 

[Branden]

they do in some states like the southern east side of the country. people use dogs to hunt deer there. it's a legal hunting practice.

I was not aware the dogs actually killed the deer in the east when they use them?

[Houndhunter]

I wouldn't have to buy any arrow's or bullets then.

try buying dog food, its a hell of alot more than arrows and bullets. cleaning a gun harder than cleaning a dog pen? training a gun most be harder than training a dog too? you cant say theres no sport in it, alot more work goes into hounding than just running your dogs. i dont see any point in argueing much more when im not talking to some one in person, but i hope you get what im trying to say

[jackelope]

they do in some states like the southern east side of the country. people use dogs to hunt deer there. it's a legal hunting practice.

I was not aware the dogs actually killed the deer in the east when they use them?

they chase them. i didn't say they killed them. you got me on a technicality i guess.
 
you sure got defensive about all this in a hurry.
 

[jackelope]

Probably not even a hunter but a ARA.

LOL. To bad its not true for the 4 cougars I shot.

lets see some pics.

[deaddog]

they do in some states like the southern east side of the country. people use dogs to hunt deer there. it's a legal hunting practice.

I was not aware the dogs actually killed the deer in the east when they use them?

There seems to be a lot your not aware of, brandon. In stead of arguing about something you know dick about,. you might want to follow some of the advice others have given you and read up on the topic.

[270Shooter]

LOL. To bad its not true for the 4 cougars I shot.

[Justin C.]

I thought the reason for this thread was for us hunters to have discussion about hound hunting coyotes?
I don't see why some of you guys are getting mad because someone doesn't share your views. 

I don't personally have a problem with using a dog for some of the methods you guys have stated, BUT as for letting hounds chase a coyote to exhaustion and then killing it I am against it. If the hounds kill the coyote the hide would be junk so I don't see the point in it anyway. I don't think its a matter of the topic being sporting but is it ethical and humane? I don't feel that it is. Pitting animals in a fight to the death is illegal in the USA and it is discusting. I would not support dog fighting or cock fighting either. I know some of you guys will say that is not how it always happens but it happens a lot with this kind of hunting.
We hunters need to stick together in the fight against the antis, but also if we make sure that the methods we use for hunting are as ethical and humane as possible then we will have a lot less fighting in the first place.

[Branden]

they chase them. i didn't say they killed them. you got me on a technicality i guess.
 
you sure got defensive about all this in a hurry.
 

I didn't think they killed them but I think you are from back east so I figure you would know. Not defensive at all.

I just don't think its right to have hounds kill coyotes, unless its necessary for population control. I look at coyotes the same as other animals that I hunt. Wouldn't want to see a pack of hounds kill a deer either.

[Branden]

lets see some pics.

I think I only have a pic of one of them on this comp, which I'll pm you. All the others were pre digital.

[Branden]

There seems to be a lot your not aware of, brandon. In stead of arguing about something you know dick about,. you might want to follow some of the advice others have given you and read up on the topic.

Enlighten me then since you obviously know exactly how its done.

Does the dog trainer not let the hounds loose on a fresh track? Do the hounds not trail the coyote? Do the hounds not catch some of the coyotes and kill them?

Those are all the questions I have for now, but after you are done enlightening me, I'll probably have a few more. 

And a little reading comprehension on your part and you would see that I have researched it. And be able to spell my name correctly. 

[bearpaw]

Branden
I would think you may be on the wrong forum if your main concern is humane treatment of animals.  We as hunters shoot animals, we try to shoot well but some die right away, some crawl off and die, some have a slow and painful recovery. This is reality. 

Coyotes chew the hind quarters on deer until they bleed to death, this too is reality. There is nothing humane or pretty when it comes to predators or life of animals in the natural world. It is pretty much an "eat" or "be eaten" world and if you think otherwise you are severely mislead by too many disney movies. If a dog catches a coyote and kills it, so what.........that dog has done nothing to the coyote that the same coyote has not done a hundred times himself.

Coyote Hunting with dogs is as diverse as bird hunting with dogs. Coyote hunting with dogs is no more inhumane than bird hunting with dogs since the dogs catch and kill some of the birds, no more inhumane than fishing where worms are skewed on a hook and fish suffocate to death when taken out of water or they are beaten on the head with a miniture baseball bat, no more inhumane than throwing a live lobster or other shellfish in boiling water, and definitely no more inhumane than the treatment any wildlife prey recieves from a coyote.

Someone had asked how dogs hunt coyotes earlier, I will post this again?? While there may be another type of dog I am not familiar with, this covers most types.

Decoy Dogs - These dogs are trained to run out a couple hundred yards or so, get the attention of the coyote, and run back to the owner, who hopefully can hit the ensueing coyote. I have never heard of a decoy dog killing a coyote.

Hounds - These dogs pursue a coyote in much the same way as pursuing a bear, except the coyote usually has more endurance than most dogs, and even most bear. Because the coyote generally makes very large circles, the hunter can figure out where to hopefully ambush the coyote for an effective shot. Hounds generally pursue and sometimes bay coyotes there are a few dogs that may kill one but it is not the usual method of kill.

Beagles - Some guys like using beagles or similar small dogs. The chase is usually slower and coyotes will often run a smaller circle. Same method, the hunter tries to get himself into a good ambush spot hoping for a shot. I have never heard of a beagle killing a coyote.

Catch Dogs - These are often greyhounds or a similar type dog. They have great eyesight and speed. The hunter must first locate a coyote that the dogs can get sight of, they then have a chance of catching the coyote and killing it.

[Houndhunter]

  well put