Main stem lower Columbia River

[Blacklab]

Fishing in the columbia river. Here we go again😢 Where the greed overrides the common sense of the fishery on the Columbia River. Washington state fishing commission is proposing to put kill nets in the lower Columbia River. In the act of catching silvers. Kill nets are not selective it destroys everything it comes in contact with. The monies that is put into saving the fishery in the Columbia River. Is wasted due to these nets. Summer steelhead is at an all time low since Bonneville Dam has been installed. Yet they’re willing to put their kill nets in the main stem river for the purpose of greed. As a sport fisherman in these waters. We have to be selective with the fish we catch.  Wild/non-fin clipped fish cannot be pulled out of the water to be released. Yet these nets catch and kill everything that it comes into contact with. A commercial fisherman can sell these endangered fish out of the back of their truck, or too grocery stores, and restaurants.  This asinine practice has to stop or we will not have a fishery on the main stem Columbia River. At one point in time. Not long ago the Columbia river was a world known fishery. Now within a few years with these types of practices it will be extinct. Please!!! Call the WDFW fishing commission or write a letter to say save the fish.  The Oregon state fishing commission surprisingly is trying to fight Washington for allowing the nets in the water. Lets give them thanks. Also it would be a great help if people wouldn’t buy wild caught salmon and steelhead from the stores or restaurants. Because most likely 8 to 9 out of 10 will be from the main stem Columbia River. Thanks for reading😉🥃🇺🇸

[metlhead]

You are correct about the greediness of some
 But, that greed extends to all user groups, including sportsfishers. We are just as guilty. Big run, everybody wants a piece.

[Sitka_Blacktail]

Fishing in the columbia river. Here we go again😢 Where the greed overrides the common sense of the fishery on the Columbia River. Washington state fishing commission is proposing to put kill nets in the lower Columbia River. In the act of catching silvers. Kill nets are not selective it destroys everything it comes in contact with. The monies that is put into saving the fishery in the Columbia River. Is wasted due to these nets. Summer steelhead is at an all time low since Bonneville Dam has been installed. Yet they’re willing to put their kill nets in the main stem river for the purpose of greed. As a sport fisherman in these waters. We have to be selective with the fish we catch.  Wild/non-fin clipped fish cannot be pulled out of the water to be released. Yet these nets catch and kill everything that it comes into contact with. A commercial fisherman can sell these endangered fish out of the back of their truck, or too grocery stores, and restaurants.  This asinine practice has to stop or we will not have a fishery on the main stem Columbia River. At one point in time. Not long ago the Columbia river was a world known fishery. Now within a few years with these types of practices it will be extinct. Please!!! Call the WDFW fishing commission or write a letter to say save the fish.  The Oregon state fishing commission surprisingly is trying to fight Washington for allowing the nets in the water. Lets give them thanks. Also it would be a great help if people wouldn’t buy wild caught salmon and steelhead from the stores or restaurants. Because most likely 8 to 9 out of 10 will be from the main stem Columbia River. Thanks for reading😉🥃🇺🇸

Just out of curiosity, How do you feel about people who don't have the means, or don't have the desire to go fishing, getting to eat some of these fish?  For most, it is cheaper to buy this salmon at the store than it is to get all the gear and go fishing. Commercial fishermen aren't the end user for most fish caught commercially. The PUBLIC is!   Evidently you are against the public consuming fish that belong to everyone? I seen where the greed is.

[huntnphool]

Fishing in the columbia river. Here we go again😢 Where the greed overrides the common sense of the fishery on the Columbia River. Washington state fishing commission is proposing to put kill nets in the lower Columbia River. In the act of catching silvers. Kill nets are not selective it destroys everything it comes in contact with. The monies that is put into saving the fishery in the Columbia River. Is wasted due to these nets. Summer steelhead is at an all time low since Bonneville Dam has been installed. Yet they’re willing to put their kill nets in the main stem river for the purpose of greed. As a sport fisherman in these waters. We have to be selective with the fish we catch.  Wild/non-fin clipped fish cannot be pulled out of the water to be released. Yet these nets catch and kill everything that it comes into contact with. A commercial fisherman can sell these endangered fish out of the back of their truck, or too grocery stores, and restaurants.  This asinine practice has to stop or we will not have a fishery on the main stem Columbia River. At one point in time. Not long ago the Columbia river was a world known fishery. Now within a few years with these types of practices it will be extinct. Please!!! Call the WDFW fishing commission or write a letter to say save the fish.  The Oregon state fishing commission surprisingly is trying to fight Washington for allowing the nets in the water. Lets give them thanks. Also it would be a great help if people wouldn’t buy wild caught salmon and steelhead from the stores or restaurants. Because most likely 8 to 9 out of 10 will be from the main stem Columbia River. Thanks for reading😉🥃🇺🇸

Just out of curiosity, How do you feel about people who don't have the means, or don't have the desire to go fishing, getting to eat some of these fish?  For most, it is cheaper to buy this salmon at the store than it is to get all the gear and go fishing. Commercial fishermen aren't the end user for most fish caught commercially. The PUBLIC is!   Evidently you are against the public consuming fish that belong to everyone? I seen where the greed is.

 Have the commercials use lines, hooks and bait!

[Jake Dogfish]

Fishing in the columbia river. Here we go again😢 Where the greed overrides the common sense of the fishery on the Columbia River. Washington state fishing commission is proposing to put kill nets in the lower Columbia River. In the act of catching silvers. Kill nets are not selective it destroys everything it comes in contact with. The monies that is put into saving the fishery in the Columbia River. Is wasted due to these nets. Summer steelhead is at an all time low since Bonneville Dam has been installed. Yet they’re willing to put their kill nets in the main stem river for the purpose of greed. As a sport fisherman in these waters. We have to be selective with the fish we catch.  Wild/non-fin clipped fish cannot be pulled out of the water to be released. Yet these nets catch and kill everything that it comes into contact with. A commercial fisherman can sell these endangered fish out of the back of their truck, or too grocery stores, and restaurants.  This asinine practice has to stop or we will not have a fishery on the main stem Columbia River. At one point in time. Not long ago the Columbia river was a world known fishery. Now within a few years with these types of practices it will be extinct. Please!!! Call the WDFW fishing commission or write a letter to say save the fish.  The Oregon state fishing commission surprisingly is trying to fight Washington for allowing the nets in the water. Lets give them thanks. Also it would be a great help if people wouldn’t buy wild caught salmon and steelhead from the stores or restaurants. Because most likely 8 to 9 out of 10 will be from the main stem Columbia River. Thanks for reading😉🥃🇺🇸

Just out of curiosity, How do you feel about people who don't have the means, or don't have the desire to go fishing, getting to eat some of these fish?  For most, it is cheaper to buy this salmon at the store than it is to get all the gear and go fishing. Commercial fishermen aren't the end user for most fish caught commercially. The PUBLIC is!   Evidently you are against the public consuming fish that belong to everyone? I seen where the greed is.

 Have the commercials use lines, hooks and bait!

[WSU]

Fishing in the columbia river. Here we go again😢 Where the greed overrides the common sense of the fishery on the Columbia River. Washington state fishing commission is proposing to put kill nets in the lower Columbia River. In the act of catching silvers. Kill nets are not selective it destroys everything it comes in contact with. The monies that is put into saving the fishery in the Columbia River. Is wasted due to these nets. Summer steelhead is at an all time low since Bonneville Dam has been installed. Yet they’re willing to put their kill nets in the main stem river for the purpose of greed. As a sport fisherman in these waters. We have to be selective with the fish we catch.  Wild/non-fin clipped fish cannot be pulled out of the water to be released. Yet these nets catch and kill everything that it comes into contact with. A commercial fisherman can sell these endangered fish out of the back of their truck, or too grocery stores, and restaurants.  This asinine practice has to stop or we will not have a fishery on the main stem Columbia River. At one point in time. Not long ago the Columbia river was a world known fishery. Now within a few years with these types of practices it will be extinct. Please!!! Call the WDFW fishing commission or write a letter to say save the fish.  The Oregon state fishing commission surprisingly is trying to fight Washington for allowing the nets in the water. Lets give them thanks. Also it would be a great help if people wouldn’t buy wild caught salmon and steelhead from the stores or restaurants. Because most likely 8 to 9 out of 10 will be from the main stem Columbia River. Thanks for reading😉🥃🇺🇸

Just out of curiosity, How do you feel about people who don't have the means, or don't have the desire to go fishing, getting to eat some of these fish?  For most, it is cheaper to buy this salmon at the store than it is to get all the gear and go fishing. Commercial fishermen aren't the end user for most fish caught commercially. The PUBLIC is!   Evidently you are against the public consuming fish that belong to everyone? I seen where the greed is.

Or perhaps he’s against gillnetting endangered steelhead in 72 degree water where survival is nil? 

Or maybe we should just let ‘em go extinct so the poor can have a salmon dinner.

[Tbar]

Fishing in the columbia river. Here we go again😢 Where the greed overrides the common sense of the fishery on the Columbia River. Washington state fishing commission is proposing to put kill nets in the lower Columbia River. In the act of catching silvers. Kill nets are not selective it destroys everything it comes in contact with. The monies that is put into saving the fishery in the Columbia River. Is wasted due to these nets. Summer steelhead is at an all time low since Bonneville Dam has been installed. Yet they’re willing to put their kill nets in the main stem river for the purpose of greed. As a sport fisherman in these waters. We have to be selective with the fish we catch.  Wild/non-fin clipped fish cannot be pulled out of the water to be released. Yet these nets catch and kill everything that it comes into contact with. A commercial fisherman can sell these endangered fish out of the back of their truck, or too grocery stores, and restaurants.  This asinine practice has to stop or we will not have a fishery on the main stem Columbia River. At one point in time. Not long ago the Columbia river was a world known fishery. Now within a few years with these types of practices it will be extinct. Please!!! Call the WDFW fishing commission or write a letter to say save the fish.  The Oregon state fishing commission surprisingly is trying to fight Washington for allowing the nets in the water. Lets give them thanks. Also it would be a great help if people wouldn’t buy wild caught salmon and steelhead from the stores or restaurants. Because most likely 8 to 9 out of 10 will be from the main stem Columbia River. Thanks for reading😉🥃🇺🇸

Just out of curiosity, How do you feel about people who don't have the means, or don't have the desire to go fishing, getting to eat some of these fish?  For most, it is cheaper to buy this salmon at the store than it is to get all the gear and go fishing. Commercial fishermen aren't the end user for most fish caught commercially. The PUBLIC is!   Evidently you are against the public consuming fish that belong to everyone? I seen where the greed is.

Or perhaps he’s against gillnetting endangered steelhead in 72 degree water where survival is nil? 

Or maybe we should just let ‘em go extinct so the poor can have a salmon dinner.

The same logic should be applied to your client and the sport fishing industry.  Every encounter has an impact, just some are more visible and accounted for. Mark select has an impact that is exacerbated by the predation rate.

[Tbar]

If fishing needs to end for a period to rebuild t&e stocks then so be it.  Presenting an argument that represents a bias without the ability to truly defend does not benefit the resources. This is true for all sides. I'll be the first to quit fishing too benefit the future. Also it's quite convenient for the environmental groups to keep us fractured while predation will likely end the existence of certain stocks without action. Anyway,  carry-on with the casting of stones without accountability.

[Blacklab]

Not saying commerical fishing is not an necessity. Commercial fishing on the main stem with kill nets is unacceptable. If sport fisherman have to be selective. Why doesn’t the commercial? We paid for their new nets use them.

[lokidog]

Not saying commerical fishing is not an necessity. Commercial fishing on the main stem with kill nets is unacceptable. If sport fisherman have to be selective. Why doesn’t the commercial? We paid for their new nets use them.

Agree, commercial use of resources should be held to the same standard as "sport" use, if not a higher one.

[Tbar]

Not saying commerical fishing is not an necessity. Commercial fishing on the main stem with kill nets is unacceptable. If sport fisherman have to be selective. Why doesn’t the commercial? We paid for their new nets use them.

Agree, commercial use of resources should be held to the same standard as "sport" use, if not a higher one.

They are! "Selective" has an impact.  I'm not sure why that's so hard to understand. Couple lactic acid build up with on line predation and your chosen method is absolutely impacting the resources. If we stop fishing, then stop fishing, don't act like you're the "good guys" when you truly have little to no accurate metrics to measure impact (the impact varies from place to place). If you want to end impacts to t &e then do it with blanket closures. Commercial accounts for their impact with dead fish, not trying to sugar cost that at all...

[Blacklab]

No their not! Why Should we dump millions and millions of dollars to help bring back a fishery that we destroyed. Then turn around and let commercial gillnetting into the main stem river. I believe there are seven endangered species listed on the Columbia river it’s asinine. Shoveling *censored* against the tide 101.

[Tbar]

No their not! Why Should we dump millions and millions of dollars to help bring back a fishery that we destroyed. Then turn around and let commercial gillnetting into the main stem river. I believe there are seven endangered species listed on the Columbia river it’s asinine. Shoveling *censored* against the tide 101.

Do you think survival metrics in place now can be applied to line caught fish in the lower river? The sea lions population has grown 10 fold. I really believe you are fighting the wrong fight and if fishing needs to end then end it, don't try to apply disputed science (both sides of this) while avoiding the elephant in the room due to the process constraints. Look at the lower Willamette for your case study instead of slinging mud. I've sat through many hours of disputed science. To what end? Do you think simply ending gillnetting will magically decrease the predation rate?

[Sitka_Blacktail]

No their not! Why Should we dump millions and millions of dollars to help bring back a fishery that we destroyed. Then turn around and let commercial gillnetting into the main stem river. I believe there are seven endangered species listed on the Columbia river it’s asinine. Shoveling *censored* against the tide 101.

Commercial fishing isn't what destroyed the salmon runs on the Columbia.  It was the dams.  If you can't acknowledge that we can't even have a meaningful conversation.

[GrimKeeper]

There's no need to argue over bs with this topic. Dams are the biggest detriment to a river with anadromous fish. Native practices coexisted with salmon runs for millennia with no adverse impact. What killed the June Hog? Dams did. Water temperature issues, water quality, overpopulated predatory species - dams. We don't help with invasive species and toxic runoff.

No spawned out dead Salmon means that the river, estuary and immediate ocean doesn't get it's natural fertilization to pump the foundation of the food chain beginning with the bacteria that feeds on a salmon carcass, feeds plankton, feeds baitfish which in return feeds adult salmon in the ocean, seals and sea lions, whales, rockfish and almost everything else. A dam takes away all that spawning habitat and when salmon don't spawn and die, the entire system begins to topple. Figure out how to remove dams or make an adequate bypass system or you're wasting breath on arguing over nothing.