218 Chewuch

[wilywin]

CLOSED

[James Kyle]

Looks like falls creek road?

[bobcat]

But doesn't say you can't walk in?

[7mmfan]

It was updated about a week ago on Inciweb and the Forest Service updated their wildfire road closure map.

I was there last weekend and saw what you saw on lots of roads. There are no extra signs indicating that you can walk on them. There was a large sign on the East Chewuch road just past the Boulder Creek campground with more information, but I didn't stop to read it. Hoping for more updates in the next week before general season opens.

https://inciweb.nwcg.gov/incident/article/7675/65979/

https://usfs.maps.arcgis.com/apps/webappviewer/index.html?id=8e69381e35144962a835ee59aafba153&extent=-15158921.6139%2C4779528.2432%2C-11343185.1619%2C6538191.39%2C102100

[wilywin]

That picture was taken on Saturday on the Boulder creek side at the 2nd cattle gaurd.  The chewuch side off the 5010 was gated also.   Hoping that changes in the next couple weeks. 

[timberfaller]

Don't count on it,  USFS is to afraid of "liability law suits".   Dead trees and hot stumps burning underground will be their excuses.

[whacker1]

following along

[Jharristealth]

The interactive map shows a good portion of Pearrygin  closed as well.  As of now, the order is not scheduled to be lifted until the end of December! I found the forest closure order here which states its unlawful to enter the land in any of these areas.

https://www.fs.usda.gov/Internet/FSE_DOCUMENTS/fseprd933401.pdf

Im guessing the gamies are going to be busy over there this year.

[eliandsky]

We’ll looks like this years 2 points will get a year to breath.


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[7mmfan]

I find it a little confusing. Are they saying that even the land adjacent to the roads that are open is off limits because it's inside the closure area? I can drive around but cannot get out and walk?

There are several areas in that closure that had zero fire activity, and they have open roads adjacent to them. I cannot get out and hunt those lands? What about the trails? You can hike on the now open trails but cannot step foot off of them onto NF land because it's inside the fire closure area?

[OutHouse]

I find it a little confusing. Are they saying that even the land adjacent to the roads that are open is off limits because it's inside the closure area? I can drive around but cannot get out and walk?

There are several areas in that closure that had zero fire activity, and they have open roads adjacent to them. I cannot get out and hunt those lands? What about the trails? You can hike on the now open trails but cannot step foot off of them onto NF land because it's inside the fire closure area?

I say you walk in. The sign says nothing about whether someone can still walk into these open lands. They are open now right?

I called the FS up there to ask about a few roads I wanted to access and they said it will probably be in the spring when they open up. They are worried about burnt/dead trees next to the roads that are falling over or will fall soon.

[Boss .300 winmag]

I find it a little confusing. Are they saying that even the land adjacent to the roads that are open is off limits because it's inside the closure area? I can drive around but cannot get out and walk?

There are several areas in that closure that had zero fire activity, and they have open roads adjacent to them. I cannot get out and hunt those lands? What about the trails? You can hike on the now open trails but cannot step foot off of them onto NF land because it's inside the fire closure area?

I say you walk in. The sign says nothing about whether someone can still walk into these open lands. They are open now right?

I called the FS up there to ask about a few roads I wanted to access and they said it will probably be in the spring when they open up. They are worried about burnt/dead trees next to the roads that are falling over or will fall soon.

That such BS, what about all the prior fires in that area with all the trees they left standing that were burnt.🤬

[bigmacc]

I find it a little confusing. Are they saying that even the land adjacent to the roads that are open is off limits because it's inside the closure area? I can drive around but cannot get out and walk?

There are several areas in that closure that had zero fire activity, and they have open roads adjacent to them. I cannot get out and hunt those lands? What about the trails? You can hike on the now open trails but cannot step foot off of them onto NF land because it's inside the fire closure area?

I say you walk in. The sign says nothing about whether someone can still walk into these open lands. They are open now right?

I called the FS up there to ask about a few roads I wanted to access and they said it will probably be in the spring when they open up. They are worried about burnt/dead trees next to the roads that are falling over or will fall soon.

That such BS, what about all the prior fires in that area with all the trees they left standing that were burnt.🤬

Yep, from what I understand from a “ guy” I know, if the roads are closed they are closed to ALL entry, vehicles, foot traffic etc. A lot of 218 is falling under these closers as well as north portions of 224 into some of the Ramsey and Pearrygin areas.

[OutHouse]

I find it a little confusing. Are they saying that even the land adjacent to the roads that are open is off limits because it's inside the closure area? I can drive around but cannot get out and walk?

There are several areas in that closure that had zero fire activity, and they have open roads adjacent to them. I cannot get out and hunt those lands? What about the trails? You can hike on the now open trails but cannot step foot off of them onto NF land because it's inside the fire closure area?

I say you walk in. The sign says nothing about whether someone can still walk into these open lands. They are open now right?

I called the FS up there to ask about a few roads I wanted to access and they said it will probably be in the spring when they open up. They are worried about burnt/dead trees next to the roads that are falling over or will fall soon.

That such BS, what about all the prior fires in that area with all the trees they left standing that were burnt.🤬

Completely agree. The FS basically says anything within the fire boundary is closed which is further nonsense.

[bear]

What the hell do they think they’re doing?  I can understand road closures but not allowing walking in is asinine!