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Re: WDFW Commission Meeting Regarding Spring Bear Seasons This Morning
« Reply #60 on: November 19, 2021, 01:19:10 PM »
Not that it has been good, but I think this turns a whole new chapter with WDFW.  Even more opportunity is going to erode in the near future, this is likely just the start of a new tsunami of losses for hunters.  Such a sad state of affairs.
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Re: WDFW Commission Meeting Regarding Spring Bear Seasons This Morning
« Reply #61 on: November 19, 2021, 01:23:56 PM »
I don't see how they could sell spring bear applications in 2022 even if it were only so a person could apply for a point. No special permits available, no applications available. Anything else defies logic.

There may not be any spring bear permits in 2023, or ever again.

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Re: WDFW Commission Meeting Regarding Spring Bear Seasons This Morning
« Reply #62 on: November 19, 2021, 01:28:06 PM »
I don't see how they could sell spring bear applications in 2022 even if it were only so a person could apply for a point. No special permits available, no applications available. Anything else defies logic.

There may not be any spring bear permits in 2023, or ever again.

Agree, see this quote


Not that it has been good, but I think this turns a whole new chapter with WDFW.  Even more opportunity is going to erode in the near future, this is likely just the start of a new tsunami of losses for hunters.  Such a sad state of affairs.


both 100% spot on.  If I were a WDFW bio, I'd be feeling very disenfranchised right about now.   

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Re: WDFW Commission Meeting Regarding Spring Bear Seasons This Morning
« Reply #63 on: November 19, 2021, 01:33:55 PM »
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Re: WDFW Commission Meeting Regarding Spring Bear Seasons This Morning
« Reply #64 on: November 19, 2021, 01:36:37 PM »
Watch this at 1:01:01 until 1:01:40

https://www.tvw.org/watch/?eventID=2021111123


Say's all you need to know

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Re: WDFW Commission Meeting Regarding Spring Bear Seasons This Morning
« Reply #65 on: November 19, 2021, 01:53:03 PM »
You see don’t you that…
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Do we need a fish and game commission when there is no fishing and gaming?
Does it matter when a increase in taxes will make up for the small shortfall in the general fund?

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Re: WDFW Commission Meeting Regarding Spring Bear Seasons This Morning
« Reply #66 on: November 19, 2021, 02:13:51 PM »
Not that it has been good, but I think this turns a whole new chapter with WDFW.  Even more opportunity is going to erode in the near future, this is likely just the start of a new tsunami of losses for hunters.  Such a sad state of affairs.

Dead on. Everyone talks about slippery slopes but this is the most evident one I've actually seen happen and we need to respond as such.

It's one thing when it's an initiative. It's a whole different matter when the commission is ignoring the entire agency science and leadership
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Re: WDFW Commission Meeting Regarding Spring Bear Seasons This Morning
« Reply #67 on: November 19, 2021, 02:15:35 PM »
How can commissioners who havent been through the confirmation by Senate process have the power to change our hunting seasons ?  They should be a voteless member of the commission until confirmed.   :twocents:

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Re: WDFW Commission Meeting Regarding Spring Bear Seasons This Morning
« Reply #68 on: November 19, 2021, 02:21:32 PM »
Watch this at 1:01:01 until 1:01:40

https://www.tvw.org/watch/?eventID=2021111123


Say's all you need to know

Did any of you watch this?   I'm trying to put the snip on youtube, seems to be the only way to get views

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Re: WDFW Commission Meeting Regarding Spring Bear Seasons This Morning
« Reply #69 on: November 19, 2021, 02:31:52 PM »
Watch this at 1:01:01 until 1:01:40

https://www.tvw.org/watch/?eventID=2021111123


Say's all you need to know

Did any of you watch this?   I'm trying to put the snip on youtube, seems to be the only way to get views
Yes, that has been a point raised a few times in commission meetings...staff telling commissioners this is a social issue because there is no scientific or population level basis for eliminating spring bear hunts. 

And I don't disagree...a lot of issues in wildlife management are social issues.  Thats why its so frightening this commission now has the votes to do really bad things for hunters, anglers, and conservation. 

I'm a firm believer in the wildlife being owned by the people, but its a tough pill to swallow when you are in the clear minority and can see the writing on the wall.

Our only hope is that there are some moderate democrats in the legislature who can join with the R's and tell Inslee to cut this crap...get rid of these BS commissioners and keep more reasonable people on the commission who are not interested in pushing a divisive agenda.  Wishful thinking I'm sure. 

I agree with your earlier comment...tough to be a WDFW employee right now.  At least with a mask mandate the more sane ones won't be questioned for wearing a bag over their head when they go to work. 
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Re: WDFW Commission Meeting Regarding Spring Bear Seasons This Morning
« Reply #70 on: November 19, 2021, 02:32:00 PM »
Here ya go, if I did this correctly



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Re: WDFW Commission Meeting Regarding Spring Bear Seasons This Morning
« Reply #71 on: November 19, 2021, 02:44:43 PM »
I’m not sure who that is confirming that it’s accurate but that’s a RMEF calendar in their office.
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Re: WDFW Commission Meeting Regarding Spring Bear Seasons This Morning
« Reply #72 on: November 19, 2021, 02:49:20 PM »
I’m not sure who that is confirming that it’s accurate but that’s a RMEF calendar in their office.


Stephanie Simek, WDFW’s carnivore section manager

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Re: WDFW Commission Meeting Regarding Spring Bear Seasons This Morning
« Reply #73 on: November 19, 2021, 03:09:40 PM »
If I were a WDFW bio, I'd be feeling very disenfranchised right about now.   

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Re: WDFW Commission Meeting Regarding Spring Bear Seasons This Morning
« Reply #74 on: November 19, 2021, 03:47:10 PM »
Anyone have the Chairmans email handy?

 


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