WWC and HHC Endorse Brian Blake to fill empty commission seat

[hughjorgan]

The whole point is politics don’t belong on the commission. That is exactly what happened with the vote on spring black bear from Lorna smith and Fred Koontz. Now we have a chance at putting someone on the commission that supports the science and the North American Model of Wildlife Conservation. Party affiliations are irrelevant. Support candidates that support science based management or we’ll end up with Lorna Smith’s and Fred Koontz imposing a social agenda to our hunting seasons. These folks don’t think hunting spring bear is ethical because of the timing. Now think about that and apply that to a weapon type or apply it to the timing of the rut for whitetail deer or our elk. What do you think will happen if they apply the same standard to other species? Divided we fall and we all lose BIG.


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[hunter399]

The whole point is politics don’t belong on the commission. That is exactly what happened with the vote on spring black bear from Lorna smith and Fred Koontz. Now we have a chance at putting someone on the commission that supports the science and the North American Model of Wildlife Conservation. Party affiliations are irrelevant. Support candidates that support science based management or we’ll end up with Lorna Smith’s and Fred Koontz imposing a social agenda to our hunting seasons. These folks don’t think hunting spring bear is ethical because of the timing. Now think about that and apply that to a weapon type or apply it to the timing of the rut for whitetail deer or our elk. What do you think will happen if they apply the same standard to other species? Divided we fall and we all lose BIG.


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Most Deer and elk general seasons are not aligned with the rut except some bow season.
There is a reason for that.
If you wanna talk spring bear season with an ignorant Republican ,let's do that.
Although science says it makes no difference if there is a season or not ,harvest is minimum .
Spring bear is purely recreational season,that's where the political part comes into play.
Us hunters are faced with a state that has a very small percentage of hunters,How hunters are perceived plays a huge role in the future of hunting.

Told you guys ,I don't think you would like my point of view on the Commission.
Maybe a pause on spring bear isn't as bad as you think. Let the masses of anti-hunt people calm down a little. Remember as a hunter ,your a minority as in the whole state.
Like said ,what do I know ,just an ignorant Republican.

[jackelope]

The whole point is politics don’t belong on the commission. That is exactly what happened with the vote on spring black bear from Lorna smith and Fred Koontz. Now we have a chance at putting someone on the commission that supports the science and the North American Model of Wildlife Conservation. Party affiliations are irrelevant. Support candidates that support science based management or we’ll end up with Lorna Smith’s and Fred Koontz imposing a social agenda to our hunting seasons. These folks don’t think hunting spring bear is ethical because of the timing. Now think about that and apply that to a weapon type or apply it to the timing of the rut for whitetail deer or our elk. What do you think will happen if they apply the same standard to other species? Divided we fall and we all lose BIG.


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Most Deer and elk general seasons are not aligned with the rut except some bow season.
There is a reason for that.
If you wanna talk spring bear season with an ignorant Republican ,let's do that.
Although science says it makes no difference if there is a season or not ,harvest is minimum .
Spring bear is purely recreational season,that's where the political part comes into play.
Us hunters are faced with a state that has a very small percentage of hunters,How hunters are perceived plays a huge role in the future of hunting.

Told you guys ,I don't think you would like my point of view on the Commission.
Maybe a pause on spring bear isn't as bad as you think. Let the masses of anti-hunt people calm down a little. Remember as a hunter ,your a minority as in the whole state.
Like said ,what do I know ,just an ignorant Republican.

You give an inch(spring bear 2022), they take a mile(hunting).

If there is a scientific reason to take a year off of spring bear hunting, have at it. If there’s a bunch of people who don’t like hunting voting on emotion, that’s BS and has no place in wildlife management. Politics shouldn’t matter in this stuff period. Science and sound wildlife management is what’s important. Not what color you spray paint you ballot.

[hunter399]

The whole point is politics don’t belong on the commission. That is exactly what happened with the vote on spring black bear from Lorna smith and Fred Koontz. Now we have a chance at putting someone on the commission that supports the science and the North American Model of Wildlife Conservation. Party affiliations are irrelevant. Support candidates that support science based management or we’ll end up with Lorna Smith’s and Fred Koontz imposing a social agenda to our hunting seasons. These folks don’t think hunting spring bear is ethical because of the timing. Now think about that and apply that to a weapon type or apply it to the timing of the rut for whitetail deer or our elk. What do you think will happen if they apply the same standard to other species? Divided we fall and we all lose BIG.


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Most Deer and elk general seasons are not aligned with the rut except some bow season.
There is a reason for that.
If you wanna talk spring bear season with an ignorant Republican ,let's do that.
Although science says it makes no difference if there is a season or not ,harvest is minimum .
Spring bear is purely recreational season,that's where the political part comes into play.
Us hunters are faced with a state that has a very small percentage of hunters,How hunters are perceived plays a huge role in the future of hunting.

Told you guys ,I don't think you would like my point of view on the Commission.
Maybe a pause on spring bear isn't as bad as you think. Let the masses of anti-hunt people calm down a little. Remember as a hunter ,your a minority as in the whole state.
Like said ,what do I know ,just an ignorant Republican.

You give an inch(spring bear 2022), they take a mile(hunting).

If there is a scientific reason to take a year off of spring bear hunting, have at it. If there’s a bunch of people who don’t like hunting voting on emotion, that’s BS and has no place in wildlife management. Politics shouldn’t matter in this stuff period. Science and sound wildlife management is what’s important. Not what color you spray paint you ballot.

Like said ,
Hunters are not the only people that live in Washington.
Like said
 scientificly there is no reason for spring bear to be taken away. Scientificly there is no reason for it to stay. 100 bears harvested,spread out in GMU all over the state is not gonna make a huge difference in fawns or overall harvest.
Do you really want to go with the" science " every time .
Cause science says spring bear hunt is a recreation hunt .Cause it makes no difference in overall harvest or anything ,makes no difference if it's open season,or closed. As far as science goes.I sent my email to the Commission and support to bring back spring bear,that's all you can do.
But at the end of the day if I have to sacrifice spring bear to hunt bears in the fall the next 20 years .So be it.

How do you feel about your comment about putting my name in the hat for wildlife Commission,I'll give you the science your asking for ,but you might not like it.
Just an FYI ,spring bear has nothing to do with my ballot,and I guarantee the dryside of the state has anything to do with spring bear and the emotional decision the Commission made . I think you know which side of this state is more anti-hunting then the other.

[Tbar]

@hunter399, I urge you to read the mission of the department and then revisit your last few comments. 

[hunter399]

@hunter399, I urge you to read the mission of the department and then revisit your last few comments.

I know there mission ,to give hunters the most opportunities while keeping sustainable population.

[haus]

@hunter399  well said.

[hunter399]

I was also one of the people that had proposed making it illegal to shoot sows with cubs,Before the meeting that closed spring bear season. And one of the reason it was even talked about in that meeting.
I also talked about it on this forum ,and nobody liked the idea, and it became a major player-ammo that the anti-hunters used against us.
Yup that was me ,And I guarantee the subject will come up again. Mainly purposed it ,so maybe we could go OTC spring bear, and fall in line with other states.  I had no idea the season would come to a closer. It was shot down by hunters and Commission. Of course the Commission said they where afraid people wouldn't report. Because they want you to report your sow with cubs that got harvested,so they could screw us.
I've tried just as a hunter to purpose rule changes that benefit wildlife or hunters or both.
With that said.....
I do wish MR. Blake luck with this journey.
But also hope he is ready to dance the dance.
Oh and very done with this conversation
You guys carry on the support ,or topic of MR Blake.
Without Me  

[Igor]

Most Deer and elk general seasons are not aligned with the rut except some bow season.

And that's relatively new........it wasn't always that way.

[huntnphool]

The whole point is politics don’t belong on the commission. That is exactly what happened with the vote on spring black bear from Lorna smith and Fred Koontz. Now we have a chance at putting someone on the commission that supports the science and the North American Model of Wildlife Conservation. Party affiliations are irrelevant. Support candidates that support science based management or we’ll end up with Lorna Smith’s and Fred Koontz imposing a social agenda to our hunting seasons. These folks don’t think hunting spring bear is ethical because of the timing. Now think about that and apply that to a weapon type or apply it to the timing of the rut for whitetail deer or our elk. What do you think will happen if they apply the same standard to other species? Divided we fall and we all lose BIG.


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Most Deer and elk general seasons are not aligned with the rut except some bow season.
There is a reason for that.
If you wanna talk spring bear season with an ignorant Republican ,let's do that.
Although science says it makes no difference if there is a season or not ,harvest is minimum .
Spring bear is purely recreational season,that's where the political part comes into play.
Us hunters are faced with a state that has a very small percentage of hunters,How hunters are perceived plays a huge role in the future of hunting.

Told you guys ,I don't think you would like my point of view on the Commission.
Maybe a pause on spring bear isn't as bad as you think. Let the masses of anti-hunt people calm down a little. Remember as a hunter ,your a minority as in the whole state.
Like said ,what do I know ,just an ignorant Republican.

You give an inch(spring bear 2022), they take a mile(hunting).

If there is a scientific reason to take a year off of spring bear hunting, have at it. If there’s a bunch of people who don’t like hunting voting on emotion, that’s BS and has no place in wildlife management. Politics shouldn’t matter in this stuff period. Science and sound wildlife management is what’s important. Not what color you spray paint you ballot.

 Agreed, politics shouldn’t have anything to do with it, but unfortunately it has a lot to do with it!

 My concern is we have been told this, and told that. We have been comforted by “words” and talking points for years. Backing someone that gives a good speech, and has a internet friend posts noncommittal talking points, without an actual stance on individual issues, is useless when there is zero accountability!

 Bottom line, Mr Blake and his internet buddies can post all the feel good messages they want...and there is not a damn thing anyone on here can do about it if he doesn’t do anything to stand up for sportsman! Once in, an appointed position means he can’t be voted out by his fellow sportsman. He is free to do whatever keeps him in good standing with the rest of the anti hunting/fishing members without fear of removal.

 Admittedly I don’t know Mr Blake, but I’m reserving judgement and support until I see something other than noncommittal talking points from him and his buddies.

[huntnphool]

 Mr Blake, if you are indeed a Washington State sportsman, than you must surely understand my skepticism in today’s sporting world, especially with a “D” in front of your name.

[buckfvr]

Mr Blake, if you are indeed a Washington State sportsman, than you must surely understand my skepticism in today’s sporting world, especially with a “D” in front of your name.

    And what is the drive behind the desire ?   I cant come up with anything but agenda.   

[buckfvr]

Since Im not vetting or voting, if he gets in there, he will be judged by the future not the past.  Answers to questions are irrelevant to me. Born more out of curiosity.

[Humptulips]

Mr Blake, if you are indeed a Washington State sportsman, than you must surely understand my skepticism in today’s sporting world, especially with a “D” in front of your name.

I don't want to speak for Brian but there is a huge difference between a SW WA democrat and a Seattle Democrat.

[Tbar]

Those skeptical of a rural western Washington appointment may want to do some research.  The Mt lion foundation has several recommendations that fit the eastern Washington and at large qualifications including scientific background. Be careful what you wish for.