Montana Preference points

[idaho guy]

Woah glad I read this.  So I’ve got a question for you smart guys.  My son has one point and doesn’t think he’ll have the time to hunt this fall, and I was going to just buy him a point after the draw but sounds like that’s no longer an option? Would his lowest odds to get drawn and keep his point then be to put him in this year and not buy another point, and hope he doesn’t get drawn and keep his point?  Hope this makes sense, Thanks

If he bought a point last year AND applied you should be able to just buy a point this year. . If he just bought a point last year and you don’t apply this year he will lose all points. You can’t just buy a point in consecutive years you have to apply in one of 2 consecutive years. If he doesn’t want to hunt just apply with 1 and don’t buy a point  he most likely won’t draw. That should give him ability to buy a second point next year and should draw with 2 points. I confused myself lol.

[BigCutty3]

Thank You that makes sense, I did put him in last year so we should be able to just buy the point it sounds like.  Sounds like I need to start reading the fine print to keep up with this stuff, it’s constantly changing seems like!

[NRA4LIFE]

Holy Moly.  I don't think I will reveal to my wife how much I just paid to apply for a PP and the general deer combo.  Last time for sure.

[MADMAX]

The big game combo would make you quiver
Plus a point
Plus special permits

[vandeman17]

Randy had a YouTube video about the Montana draw and mentioned the 75/25 rule and how the one point holders have the lowest odds for that year. I am still deciding if I am going just deer or deer and elk with permit app. Might have to do a cash out refi on my house

[hunter399]

Randy had a YouTube video about the Montana draw and mentioned the 75/25 rule and how the one point holders have the lowest odds for that year. I am still deciding if I am going just deer or deer and elk with permit app. Might have to do a cash out refi on my house

I watch that ,I think....
Your right 75/25 ....
Hi point holders getting about 75% and low point holder gettin 25% .
If you have 2 points you have less chance than those with 3 or 1 points.

Looked up vidya...
This one I watched.

[Wolfdog2314]

Last years numbers:




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[vandeman17]

For those that applied, did you go with a preference point or not? I am doing my app today and likely will not buy a point. Trying to decide if I apply for an elk permit with my 6 bonus points or not as well

[Stein]

I put in for a special draw for elk and decided to stop buying or applying for special deer draws.  I'm stuck in no-man's land for elk and will probably burn them for the archery multi unit permit once I can convince my brother to buy a bow.

I would guess a bunch of people that understand the system don't buy a preference point.  Hard to say what percent of the total that is these days, I would guess a bunch of people just buy it and don't pay much attention to changes year to year.

[vandeman17]

I put in for a special draw for elk and decided to stop buying or applying for special deer draws.  I'm stuck in no-man's land for elk and will probably burn them for the archery multi unit permit once I can convince my brother to buy a bow.

I would guess a bunch of people that understand the system don't buy a preference point.  Hard to say what percent of the total that is these days, I would guess a bunch of people just buy it and don't pay much attention to changes year to year.

This is my guess/hope for 2022 but I think word will get out more for the future unless they change the language.

[Stein]

If 1,000 people don't buy their $100 point me thinks the draw will get revised.  All the legislator's families, kids and guide buddies are taken care of now so changes to the regular draw won't draw any fire in state.

[idaho guy]

For those that applied, did you go with a preference point or not? I am doing my app today and likely will not buy a point. Trying to decide if I apply for an elk permit with my 6 bonus points or not as well

This was my question- how many people didn’t buy a preference point? I was thinking the odds in zero point pool would go way down as a lot more people wouldn’t buy points that ordinarily do. It might be good as separate thread with a poll? Anyways I put me and my son in as a group and we didn’t buy a point but ordinarily we always buy the point.  If we don’t draw I can get the come home to hunt most likely as a surplus but put in with him since this a hunt we traditionally do together, he can only get the adult non res tag or nothing. I’m not sure if I would do the hunt without him. Who all didn’t buy a point? The odds in the low point pool were pretty well publicized everywhere so I’m thinking a lot of people opted out

[vandeman17]

My old man and I didn’t buy a point. Roll of the dice

[sagerat]

I put in for a special draw for elk and decided to stop buying or applying for special deer draws.  I'm stuck in no-man's land for elk and will probably burn them for the archery multi unit permit once I can convince my brother to buy a bow.

I would guess a bunch of people that understand the system don't buy a preference point.  Hard to say what percent of the total that is these days, I would guess a bunch of people just buy it and don't pay much attention to changes year to year.

Isn’t Montana’s system similar to ours for the special draws? Curious why you feel you’re in no mans land? Super difficult to draw for sure but it’s not really due to not enough points is how I see it?

[grundy53]

For those that applied, did you go with a preference point or not? I am doing my app today and likely will not buy a point. Trying to decide if I apply for an elk permit with my 6 bonus points or not as well

I put in for a point because I didn't get drawn last year with one point and I didn't want to go in with one point again for obvious reasons. If I get drawn I'll have to reevaluate next year.

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