e-bike on state land survey

[CP]

Took the survey.
I don’t really understand the classes of ebikes. 
However I had no trouble answering question 14.   

Class 1 – pedal assist only – assist speed limited to 20mph (almost nobody sells them in the US, it’s a European thing)

Class 2 - pedal assist & throttle – assist & throttle speed limited to 20mph (most common)

Class 3 - pedal assist to 28mph – throttle: not supposed to have one but some do, if so, throttle speed limited to 20mph
All of these are limited to 750watts power output.

Many modern Ebikes are genderfluid – default class 2, press a button - class 3, press another button -moped, press a secret button – beyond moped.

[KFhunter]

ya, it's stupid.

[templar021]

Its about access to public lands for everyone. Not everyone is able to hike 5+ miles to get to good hunting areas behind gates. Not everyone has access to horses, etc. When your 70 years old and your knees are shot from 40 years of packing elk down steep hills, you will be happy you can use an ebike to get back into the animals.

[Jake Dogfish]

Took the survey.
I don’t really understand the classes of ebikes. 
However I had no trouble answering question 14.   

Class 1 – pedal assist only – assist speed limited to 20mph (almost nobody sells them in the US, it’s a European thing)

Class 2 - pedal assist & throttle – assist & throttle speed limited to 20mph (most common)

Class 3 - pedal assist to 28mph – throttle: not supposed to have one but some do, if so, throttle speed limited to 20mph
All of these are limited to 750watts power output.

Many modern Ebikes are genderfluid – default class 2, press a button - class 3, press another button -moped, press a secret button – beyond moped.

If they are limited to 750 watts, who cares how they assist you?  Where are bikes more than 750 watts allowed? The classes seem pointless to me.

[Mudman]

None of this matters.  2 tires or no tires.  Thats it.  Elect motoer or petro engine.  Doesnt make darn bit of difference.  People will go off trail on either.  Either is a way to travel.  Either is taxed n tabbed n permit etc.  Abuse will occur with either one.  Both can disturb veg. or animals.  This is about $ and control of people n resources.  Nothing more.   Quit fighting for crumbs imop.  If it aint Wilderness land then all should be allowed within reasonable standards.

[fishngamereaper]

Its about access to public lands for everyone. Not everyone is able to hike 5+ miles to get to good hunting areas behind gates. Not everyone has access to horses, etc. When your 70 years old and your knees are shot from 40 years of packing elk down steep hills, you will be happy you can use an ebike to get back into the animals.

So everyone deserves 100 percent equal access...

I can't do or hunt the way I could ten years ago...I've accepted that fact...I don't expect anyone, private, State, or federal to make accommodations for me...it's life ..I've accepted it ..I don't feel entitled to motor assisted cruise past some young guy working his butt off to get in deep...but that's just me. 

[hunthard]

Well good for you, mean while the rest of us would like to continue on hunting and having an ebike make that possible.

[fishngamereaper]

Well good for you, mean while the rest of us would like to continue on hunting and having an ebike make that possible.

I'll continue hunting... without the expectation that I deserve to go and do everything I did when I was younger...
To each their own .. just my opinion.

[hunthard]

Whatever

[fishngamereaper]

My old man rest his soul taught me a good lesson years ago.. unintentional discharge of his rifle when we got back to truck one day cost him his lower leg...
The few seasons that followed he refused to get the handicap placard, or handicap license..or anything the would give him a leg up...lol..I know..but he made the same joke ......he told me he would hunt the way God intended him to hunt naturally...and he did...it will forever be my guide ...

Anyway..carry on.. that's all I got.

[Forks]

I'm on a Class 3-no throttle full blown mtn bike and ride it mainly in Capitol Forrest on "open and closed" trails. I could care less what people think and will pull the "handicapped" card if needed which enforcement has no right to ask my status. I volunteer with FOCF and maintain trails on my own that I ride and will do at others also. Private ground obviously is a different story and will follow their rules if I want to continue to ride. They are here to stay..... thats a guarantee.

[hunthard]

I hope your right

[Jingles]

Its about access to public lands for everyone. Not everyone is able to hike 5+ miles to get to good hunting areas behind gates. Not everyone has access to horses, etc. When your 70 years old and your knees are shot from 40 years of packing elk down steep hills, you will be happy you can use an ebike to get back into the animals.

So everyone deserves 100 percent equal access...

I can't do or hunt the way I could ten years ago...I've accepted that fact...I don't expect anyone, private, State, or federal to make accommodations for me...it's life ..I've accepted it ..I don't feel entitled to motor assisted cruise past some young guy working his butt off to get in deep...but that's just me. 

No it is not just you at nigh on 74 and both knees shot I can't do what I did 10 years ago as fast as I did so change plans to start earlier and take longer to get where I wanted to go also loosing the 30 pounds made a big difference. Heck have found that because I do move slower I see and hear a lot more than the speed demon hell bent on getting in ahead of everyone else.

[CP]

Took the survey.
I don’t really understand the classes of ebikes. 
However I had no trouble answering question 14.   

Class 1 – pedal assist only – assist speed limited to 20mph (almost nobody sells them in the US, it’s a European thing)

Class 2 - pedal assist & throttle – assist & throttle speed limited to 20mph (most common)

Class 3 - pedal assist to 28mph – throttle: not supposed to have one but some do, if so, throttle speed limited to 20mph
All of these are limited to 750watts power output.

Many modern Ebikes are genderfluid – default class 2, press a button - class 3, press another button -moped, press a secret button – beyond moped.

If they are limited to 750 watts, who cares how they assist you?  Where are bikes more than 750 watts allowed? The classes seem pointless to me.

I don't disagree, but that is the law.

"Where are bikes more than 750 watts allowed?"   Private land, and on the street if street legal.  I have a 34,000 watt bike, it's allowed on public streets and some trails, some places in the National forests, many other places. 

[kramman]

If it's open to motorized vehicles it's open to an e bike... if its closed to motorized vehicles then it's closed to e bikes. I believe we r over thinking it.  It either has a propulsion system (motor electric or otherwise) or it doesnt.