Why does it take so long to complete Special Draws?

[bigtex]

WA is the fastest state in the west. Never takes more than a month for them to complete draws. There are checks and balances that need to be completed. We've had many draw witnesses on this very site that have detailed the process very well. Maybe Jerry or Rainier could revisit the process or copy and paste from an old thread.

California just had their draw results out in a week. Due 6/2 out 6/9.

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[Karl Blanchard]

I also think they should freeze the website until everything is uploaded. Keep everyone from constantly checking and prolonging the perceived agony.  Would cut down on the guys making the site crash while simultaneously complaining that the site keeps crashing  🤦‍♂️

[Karl Blanchard]

WA is the fastest state in the west. Never takes more than a month for them to complete draws. There are checks and balances that need to be completed. We've had many draw witnesses on this very site that have detailed the process very well. Maybe Jerry or Rainier could revisit the process or copy and paste from an old thread.

California just had their draw results out in a week. Due 6/2 out 6/9.

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yeah but nobody cares about California 

[muleyslayer]

Nevada released results within 10 days of the deadline, but Washington does a great job of releasing the draw results, within a reasonable time period compared to the rest of the west.

[trophyhunt]

It’s not all on the WDFW team, this new wild system is less than a year old (maybe bugs to figure out? Just a guess on my part), WDFW also relies on the vendors to do a speedy job without mistakes. I can only guess that WDFW are as frustrated if not more than all of us?? They don’t want it to take a long time, last year they were super stars right? This year, I’d have to say they are working their butts off. But again, these are just my thoughts. 

[trophyhunt]

My complaint, leave well enough alone! It seems to me IT people feel like they need to change chit all the time to keep their jobs???  Leave well enough alone, WDFW should have this nailed down by now. Prob too many chiefs and they all want it their way! And I’m not talking about the WDFW team doing the draws, I’m talking about people above their heads.

[arrowflinger]

It’s not all on the WDFW team, this new wild system is less than a year old (maybe bugs to figure out? Just a guess on my part), WDFW also relies on the vendors to do a speedy job without mistakes. I can only guess that WDFW are as frustrated if not more than all of us?? They don’t want it to take a long time, last year they were super stars right? This year, I’d have to say they are working their butts off. But again, these are just my thoughts.

I thought this System is a couple years old and that WDFW runs it now, since it got hacked. 

[trophyhunt]

It’s not all on the WDFW team, this new wild system is less than a year old (maybe bugs to figure out? Just a guess on my part), WDFW also relies on the vendors to do a speedy job without mistakes. I can only guess that WDFW are as frustrated if not more than all of us?? They don’t want it to take a long time, last year they were super stars right? This year, I’d have to say they are working their butts off. But again, these are just my thoughts.

I thought this System is a couple years old and that WDFW runs it now, since it got hacked. 

I thought so too, but I guess not. Honestly I’m not sure what is new.

[arrowflinger]

It’s not all on the WDFW team, this new wild system is less than a year old (maybe bugs to figure out? Just a guess on my part), WDFW also relies on the vendors to do a speedy job without mistakes. I can only guess that WDFW are as frustrated if not more than all of us?? They don’t want it to take a long time, last year they were super stars right? This year, I’d have to say they are working their butts off. But again, these are just my thoughts.

I thought this System is a couple years old and that WDFW runs it now, since it got hacked. 

I thought so too, but I guess not. Honestly I’m not sure what is new.
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[b0bbyg]

My complaint, leave well enough alone! It seems to me IT people feel like they need to change chit all the time to keep their jobs??? Leave well enough alone, WDFW should have this nailed down by now. Prob too many chiefs and they all want it their way! And I’m not talking about the WDFW team doing the draws, I’m talking about people above their heads.

Not how it works most places I have been, most of these big platform changes are not the decision of IT but the business or a high level manager who got wined and dined.  IT just gets stuck trying to make it work up to the promises of the marketing machine that polished up the "product".  But those are just past scars from a long career in IT   

Would be interesting to hear how this new fish hunt website came into the planning cycle - It could be just as you say

[Ghost Hunter]

Have you guys tried not worrying about it till they actually release results    checking at random for no reason doesn't make them come out faster. I wish they would go to a hard date too and stick to it because it would inevitably be later in the month and y'all would get to lay in the bed you make. No more speedy results and everyone would have more fuel to melt the internet with  :chuckle

The days before the internet were nice.  You forgot about the draw until you got your "Dear Hunter" cards in the mail.

  such was 'The good old days'.  Bring it back, along with the deer and elk populations.

[trophyhunt]

Have you guys tried not worrying about it till they actually release results    checking at random for no reason doesn't make them come out faster. I wish they would go to a hard date too and stick to it because it would inevitably be later in the month and y'all would get to lay in the bed you make. No more speedy results and everyone would have more fuel to melt the internet with  :chuckle

The days before the internet were nice.  You forgot about the draw until you got your "Dear Hunter" cards in the mail.

  such was 'The good old days'.  Bring it back, along with the deer and elk populations.

I just showed my son in law one of my old green cards we used to get, that was pretty cool getting those in the mail!

[Moose Master]

So I called licensing turned on the charm and the nice lady and I had a good laugh.  She wouldn't budge and said I wasn't the only one calling about the draws 

[Fidelk]

Why are we in such a rush to be Not Selected? Are we in such a rush for that one spike in 100 square miles to walk past us?

[go4steelhd]

The draw really doesn’t take that long. What eats up their time is giving the best tags themselves, their family’s, and friends. Because they often argue over hey your uncle had that same moose tag last year so we should give him a sheep tag instead, or I wanted the Dayton bull tag not the Wenaha again. Imagine what this looks like division wide with all the employees in good standings

 They then have to come up with a plan of how to draw the few remaining permits to make things look legit. These are the tags that we may have a shot at.

My suggestion is they make two separate draws. They have their buddy draw for let’s say 90% of all the antlered species tags issued in a year.(I think this would be real close to what they have done in past years)

 Then the second draw is for the rest of us, and they could draw like Nevada and have our results out in two weeks!