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Re: Roosevelt elk "bait" , or attractant.
« Reply #45 on: July 25, 2022, 06:14:26 AM »
love it when people argue and say no its the product! no its salt! 

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Re: Roosevelt elk "bait" , or attractant.
« Reply #46 on: July 25, 2022, 06:25:18 AM »
love it when people argue and say no its the product! no its salt!

Ya that salt.
I'm sure you might agree with this.
I like to make sure there is a water source within a quarter mile or closer.
Just like any animal that takes in a lot of salt ,will need a water source.
Something eles I've noticed over the years ,
When we are having extreme heat temperatures,cob,corn,any super high protein feed isn't good for deer or elk.
But the old salt ,next to a water source,doesn't seem to effect deer and elk year round.

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Re: Roosevelt elk "bait" , or attractant.
« Reply #47 on: July 25, 2022, 06:29:59 AM »
I just buy salt blocks and break into chunks that will fit in my backpack.
Or you can buy the smaller ones.
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Re: Roosevelt elk "bait" , or attractant.
« Reply #48 on: July 25, 2022, 06:36:56 AM »
this time of year elk, deer and moose get a ton of water from their feed. Its also why there is huge draw to salt for the animals as they are basically washing out any sodium they do obtain from moisture rich food. When the vegetation drys up you usually notice a drop in salt activity

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Re: Roosevelt elk "bait" , or attractant.
« Reply #49 on: July 25, 2022, 07:17:26 AM »
this time of year elk, deer and moose get a ton of water from their feed. Its also why there is huge draw to salt for the animals as they are basically washing out any sodium they do obtain from moisture rich food. When the vegetation drys up you usually notice a drop in salt activity
That sounds about right.

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Re: Roosevelt elk "bait" , or attractant.
« Reply #50 on: July 25, 2022, 08:46:18 AM »
love it when people argue and say no its the product! no its salt!

Ya that salt.
I'm sure you might agree with this.
I like to make sure there is a water source within a quarter mile or closer.
Just like any animal that takes in a lot of salt ,will need a water source.
Something eles I've noticed over the years ,
When we are having extreme heat temperatures,cob,corn,any super high protein feed isn't good for deer or elk.
But the old salt ,next to a water source,doesn't seem to effect deer and elk year round.
Why is the cob bad for them during the heat? I know it’s bad during the winter because their gut is not able to process the high protein when they are on diets of sticks and pine needles. I’ve been told some will even die on green grass if it comes on too quick in the spring. Just wondering what the negative effect is during the heat? I want to help the herd not hurt it. I also thought this applied more to deer than elk.

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Re: Roosevelt elk "bait" , or attractant.
« Reply #51 on: July 25, 2022, 10:07:13 AM »
Deer Cocaine black magic. You won’t be disappointed

marketing gimmick to lure in hunters and charge tons of money for sodium. What the elk and deer want in that product is plain and simple its the salt(sodium) go to the feed store and buy a 50lb bag for $9 and achieve the same thing

I’ve bought the 50lb bags. Didn’t work nearly as well. There’s more than just salt in these bags.

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Re: Roosevelt elk "bait" , or attractant.
« Reply #52 on: July 25, 2022, 10:13:11 AM »
Go Check Out Blacktail Drop Zone's Minerals. I've had great results using them. Go Check them out on Facebook. They are based out of S. Oregon. I've got some great Rosie's and Blacktail Bucks on camera this year using their products.
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Re: Roosevelt elk "bait" , or attractant.
« Reply #53 on: July 25, 2022, 11:07:56 AM »
It is easy to custom blend anything you want and yes things change as food sources change.  Selenium is important in most of the PNW, absolutely required for reproduction and natural sources are near zero here.  Be very careful with it, the correct amount makes things work, as little as 3x that can be toxic.

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Re: Roosevelt elk "bait" , or attractant.
« Reply #54 on: July 25, 2022, 01:36:37 PM »
love it when people argue and say no its the product! no its salt!

Ya that salt.
I'm sure you might agree with this.
I like to make sure there is a water source within a quarter mile or closer.
Just like any animal that takes in a lot of salt ,will need a water source.
Something eles I've noticed over the years ,
When we are having extreme heat temperatures,cob,corn,any super high protein feed isn't good for deer or elk.
But the old salt ,next to a water source,doesn't seem to effect deer and elk year round.
Why is the cob bad for them during the heat? I know it’s bad during the winter because their gut is not able to process the high protein when they are on diets of sticks and pine needles. I’ve been told some will even die on green grass if it comes on too quick in the spring. Just wondering what the negative effect is during the heat? I want to help the herd not hurt it. I also thought this applied more to deer than elk.
It's all the same year round.
It takes time for there gut to adjust no matter the season or diet they are on.
Just in the summer dehydration comes into play.
If you feed cob or corn year round ,with a feeder that throws a certain amount everyday is best.
With the bluetongue ,movement to reach water daily with drought conditions I just assume leave there diet to nature.
In the hot summer months.
After last summer I almost think these drought /extreme heat is just as bad as winter months.
It's just my opinion ,no real facts,sorry.
The deer around my place won't see any cob or corn or heavy protein until late fall.
Now some people will say different,that deer need extra protein now,cause spring food is dryed up. Deer are mainly eating brush type plants as summer and fall come in.
Antler growth this month,ECT,ECT.
But antler growth means nothing to me.
Over all health means more to me,and your deer are all organic meat .
Now I have nothing against anybody that uses cob,corn,or a pellet this time of year.
Just remember that a daily amount that stays the same daily is best.
A lot of guys go out dump the whole bag,they eat it,takes time to adjust,then more time to adjust back to there regular diet,all the while dealing with extreme heat/drought is not good.

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Re: Roosevelt elk "bait" , or attractant.
« Reply #55 on: July 25, 2022, 05:59:59 PM »
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Re: Roosevelt elk "bait" , or attractant.
« Reply #56 on: July 25, 2022, 08:11:36 PM »
https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/product/purina-antlermax-deer-block-33-lb-3004575-604
Works like a charm


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Have you put one out in elk or bear county?  I find that they both like to roll them around and pretty soon it isn't even close to being in front of your camera anymore.  Not a problem with deer.

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Re: Roosevelt elk "bait" , or attractant.
« Reply #57 on: July 25, 2022, 08:50:19 PM »
Deer Cocaine black magic. You won’t be disappointed

marketing gimmick to lure in hunters and charge tons of money for sodium. What the elk and deer want in that product is plain and simple its the salt(sodium) go to the feed store and buy a 50lb bag for $9 and achieve the same thing

I’ve bought the 50lb bags. Didn’t work nearly as well. There’s more than just salt in these bags.

It’s the salt they want. Keep believing. I’ve been running salt licks for 30 years. Never had a single issue getting deer and elk to come in. 2-3k pics a week is all I need  :chuckle:

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Re: Roosevelt elk "bait" , or attractant.
« Reply #58 on: July 25, 2022, 09:13:49 PM »
https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/product/purina-antlermax-deer-block-33-lb-3004575-604
Works like a charm


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Have you put one out in elk or bear county?  I find that they both like to roll them around and pretty soon it isn't even close to being in front of your camera anymore.  Not a problem with deer.

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No matter what you put out bears will always be a problem. As for the Elk the bigger herds of cows we have on the east side will wipe it out in a couple days. Usually drop of sack of selenium mineral salt and a block to get them started out. 


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Re: Roosevelt elk "bait" , or attractant.
« Reply #59 on: July 25, 2022, 10:16:44 PM »
also people new to dumping salt there is ways to make 1 bag last a long time. Dump in March if you can during the westseaon and get that salt into the ground. Another tactic is to dump when they wont hit it much in November or december and let that moisture wash it into the ground. Animals will come back to that for a long time. Dumping in dry season and lots of elk not much of it gets into the ground and gets eaten up

 


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