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Point of impact issues
« on: August 29, 2022, 01:12:20 PM »
Hello gents. Yesterday I shot my Knight MK85 in .54 cal for the first time. It’s a Rocky Mountain elk foundation model made in 1993 and yesterday was the first time it was fired. I put William’s globe sights on it.
I got it zeroed at 50 yards and was shooting 1” groups with 100 grains of FF Triple Seven and 348 gr Power Belts. The issue started when I went to 100 yards. I was consistently shooting 20 to 24” low. This makes absolutely no sense to me as I should have only been a couple of inches low. I also tried 120 grains of powder and didn’t move the point of impact much. I then switched to some 250 grain saboted bullets and the point if impact was no different.
What in the world could be the issue?
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Re: Point of impact issues
« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2022, 12:41:33 PM »
No advice at all?
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Re: Point of impact issues
« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2022, 12:43:36 PM »
Maybe the twist rate in the barrel is not good for that projectile? 

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Re: Point of impact issues
« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2022, 12:56:50 PM »
the math makes no sense.. that is where you should be at about 300 yds not 100.   

are you certain that the poa is not off? i know its a stretch idk if everything you toss is there (2' low) ...
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Re: Point of impact issues
« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2022, 01:02:15 PM »
That doesn't sound logical at all. Can you shoot at distances between 50 and 100 yards to see what happens?
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Re: Point of impact issues
« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2022, 01:11:24 PM »
Loose Sight

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Re: Point of impact issues
« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2022, 01:11:59 PM »
That doesn't sound logical at all. Can you shoot at distances between 50 and 100 yards to see what happens?

I'd have to go to a pit somewhere.
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Re: Point of impact issues
« Reply #7 on: August 30, 2022, 01:13:59 PM »
Loose Sight

I used loctite on all the screws. I can go back to 50 yards and I'm in the bullseye. It's not loose sights, I ruled that out.
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Re: Point of impact issues
« Reply #8 on: August 30, 2022, 01:20:52 PM »
So, you got it on paper now. Adjust your sights to hit at 100. You can see where you're hitting at 50 afterwards.

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Re: Point of impact issues
« Reply #9 on: August 30, 2022, 02:07:59 PM »
The only explanation from a ballistics perspective is that you have very slow velocities in the neighborhood of 700 ft/second. If you have access to a chronograph you could verify that.
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Re: Point of impact issues
« Reply #10 on: August 30, 2022, 03:36:17 PM »
Are you fudging on your sight picture so you can see the bullseye?

If so that could account for part of the problem.

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Re: Point of impact issues
« Reply #11 on: August 30, 2022, 06:22:57 PM »
Twist rate not compatible with projectiles?    Is that rifle designed for round ball which would have a much slower twist and not be suitable for modern muzzleloader projectiles.....Just a thought.

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Re: Point of impact issues
« Reply #12 on: August 30, 2022, 06:23:51 PM »
Maybe the twist rate in the barrel is not good for that projectile?


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Re: Point of impact issues
« Reply #13 on: August 30, 2022, 08:41:27 PM »
If you need to barrow a chronograph,I have one and am close by.
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Re: Point of impact issues
« Reply #14 on: August 30, 2022, 09:01:54 PM »
Another thought is bad powder making low velocities, but that would likely make everything inconsistent so not likely. Are you measuring your powder wrong? A problem with your powder measuring might mean you are only loading 50grains???  I'm just spit balling here....???

 


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