Kind of funny, when I started in 1987 and lived near St. Louis, there were only a couple manufacturers whose bullets were readily available, Hornady and Speer. Then in the very early '90s, Sierra opened their plant in Sedalia, MO. My buddy and I would go out there usually once a year to buy their seconds, and basically just goof off. I still use some of the same Hornady bullets to this day that I started off with.