STOP KILLING THE BABY MAKERS

[Bowhunter3]

It’s tough to argue when op can’t read and analyze anything that’s said. If it doesn’t work for her
cause, then she laughs. I think I saw it said earlier how many youngsters watch this forum. Imagine all the up and comers turned off cause the CENSORED FOR YOU GUYS can’t understand deer populations in different parts of the state. Gonna be a good doe harvest coming up

Bone can handle his own discussion and I wouldn't intervene in that, that said, I won't tolerate name calling, belittling or intentionally trolling this discussion.

LOL this is where the line is drawn? Delete what you think you need to chief..

[huntnfmly]

@jrebel his points have not even been addressed or answered just talked around pretty sad

[Bowhunter3]

@jrebel his points have not even been addressed or answered just talked around pretty sad

Well that’s because he made great point. The people arguing against common sense won’t reply, at least not with anything of worth. But there will be one or two that pop up to let you and him know you’re out of line.

[KFhunter]

As much as I agree with you with the oh so many factors…..

This is what I am spelling out.

If you have a corral with a bull and 2 cows in it.    You kill one of the cows, what does that do to next years production.

Now if your last cow dies of a disease, lightning strike,  or a coyote eats it’s calf, where are you on production.   

If you have a bull and 10 cows, eating one, not such a big deal

If you have a pen with a bull and 15 cows, you better eat one so they don’t starve or get diseased.   

What I am hearing from some is that we are entitled to eat that cow as it’s perfectly legal to do so.  the ranch is being run by some dimwit back in Olympia, who probably has never set foot on a farm, but is advising that yes, that last cow looks tasty. Let’s eat her!   

I’m afraid so buckfvr

Your example is largely predicated on the notion that antlerless hunter harvest is a major factor in how many there are in the 'pen'.  I assure you - the ~2,600 does harvested (in all GMU's across the entire state) by hunters has no meaningful impact on the lower than desirable (for hunters) deer abundance across much of the state.

I'm all for your pen/cow/bull example...but getting worked up over the least significant factor affecting how many are in your 'pen' is not effective management.

That said - every little tiny fraction can help...but I think its more useful to target the bigger things that are less likely to alienate other hunters.

We agree IDH, all cause mortality has caused the decline, of which doe harvest state wide is but a drop in the bucket. 

I will allow though that doe harvest in bones back yard might be a bigger splash in that bucket than in another unit.  I just don't spend much time there, but I know he does, and is concerned enough to endure this public lashing to sound the alarm.

[huntnfmly]

@jrebel his points have not even been addressed or answered just talked around pretty sad

Well that’s because he made great point. The people arguing against common sense won’t reply, at least not with anything of worth. But there will be one or two that pop up to let you and him know you’re out of line.

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No one is advocating killing the last doe in a unit
The point is me good you bad attitude towards people who are happy and greatful for taking any deer
We should be united as sportsman/women not to the detriment to our herds but be happy for other’s success
Hope that makes sense

[Bowhunter3]

@jrebel his points have not even been addressed or answered just talked around pretty sad

Well that’s because he made great point. The people arguing against common sense won’t reply, at least not with anything of worth. But there will be one or two that pop up to let you and him know you’re out of line.

👍

No one is advocating killing the last doe in a unit
The point is me good you bad attitude towards people who are happy and greatful for taking any deer
We should be united as sportsman/women not to the detriment to our herds but be happy for other’s success
Hope that makes sense

Yeah I’ gotcha bud. I’m against ops *censored* blanketed statement that she doesn’t even understand. Take a few pictures with a camera and you’re the boss. Should be some tasty does harvested soon

[buckfvr]

Nobody is owed a response and no one is obligated to respond on a public forum, but certainly the snarky rude responses arent called for.

[Bowhunter3]

Nobody is owed a response and no one is obligated to respond on a public forum, but certainly the snarky rude responses arent called for.

This thread is?

[JakeLand]

There are a couple guys that know those areas and those deer herds better then most and Bone is one of them

[huntnfmly]

There are a couple guys that know those areas and those deer herds better then most and Bone is one of them

Agreed and for sure there are herds that need less doe harvest my point is the blanket statement STOP KILLING THE BABY MAKERS
and if a person is buying doe tags or second deer tags as to help lessen the harvest is wrong
For the record I’ve enjoyed all of Bones pics and contributions to this site
He’s even given me some pointers on areas
He’s the one who told me about this site on monster muleys back in 2007
I just don’t agree with the blanket statement that will send some people away from this site thats all
And I guarantee the antis that look at this site love the division

[Bowhunter3]

There are a couple guys that know those areas and those deer herds better then most and Bone is one of them

Agreed and for sure there are herds that need less doe harvest my point is the blanket statement STOP KILLING THE BABY MAKERS
and if a person is buying doe tags or second deer tags as to help lessen the harvest is wrong
For the record I’ve enjoyed all of Bones pics and contributions to this site
He’s even given me some pointers on areas
He’s the one who told me about this site on monster muleys back in 2007
I just don’t agree with the blanket statement that will send some people away from this site thats all
And I guarantee the antis that look at this site love the division

They love it, and the amount of ammunition they have gotten from this thread is substantial. But don’t kill does in a section of the state.

[rickomatic]

To be fair, I'd say the WDFW has drastically reduced the harvest of antlerless deer and elk in the last few years.

They absolutely have. Reduced exponentially. So, if you’re so against some disabled or over 65, or youth taking one off the 5?permits each GMU, then put your money where your mouth is. Put in for those permits, and eat the tags if you get drawn.
For me, I’ve put in my dues (literally) for over 50 years. If I draw an old guy or disabled tag, I’m putting meat in the freezer. The very few does taken has a negligible if non existent effect on the total herd population.

[boneaddict]

No worries rickomatic. I wish you luck.

Huntfam, also, no worries.  Unlike some of the garbage being tossed by a couple members I have no problem with a different opinion, especially from folks I know where they are coming from. 

There’s some pretty good discussion on here.

[boneaddict]

Yeah I’ gotcha bud. I’m against ops *censored* blanketed statement that she doesn’t even understand. Take a few pictures with a camera and you’re the boss. Should be some tasty does harvested soon

This is as hell

[MountainWalk]

The folks all for JR blasting a doe so he can kill something so pops feels like they have something in common, are probably the ones moaning about places like WY uppin non res tags.     If a unit is being hammered on all fronts, why make things worse, regardless if the state offers the tag.   Just because the state says go for it, just to get your money, doesn’t make it right. Remember, the same state you praise for letting you blow does away is the same one you curse about drawings, hoof rot, predators etc..