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Re: Rivian electric truck.
« Reply #15 on: November 08, 2022, 09:34:03 AM »
One thing I thought of is if you need a special charging plugin...some setup that will be used for your EV...where do you put it assuming you have to charge your EV every night?

In the garage? If you are like me you periodically have projects that take up floor space in the garage for a week or more and so you park your vehicle outside.

An outside charging station? So I have to park my car in the same spot every night where it will get snowed on instead of inside?

Will these at home charging stations have a 100 foot extension cord? I assume the cord is pretty short?

I installed the outlet for my wife's plug in. It's outside. I could easily put a similar plug in inside as well. It is not hard. Maybe the Rivian system is different than the Audi, but it was pretty darned easy.

Electric motors are far superior to gas. They are simpler and quicker. The battery storage has been the issue. Liquid fuels are just easy storage and we put up with an inferior motor and with a global economy for petro. It would be great to have a local market for electricity drive the cost of energy in my opinion. We may end up doing it with hydrogen in the end. It may end up being a superior way to store energy. It's all about storage.

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Re: Rivian electric truck.
« Reply #16 on: November 08, 2022, 09:41:29 AM »
One thing I thought of is if you need a special charging plugin...some setup that will be used for your EV...where do you put it assuming you have to charge your EV every night?

In the garage? If you are like me you periodically have projects that take up floor space in the garage for a week or more and so you park your vehicle outside.

An outside charging station? So I have to park my car in the same spot every night where it will get snowed on instead of inside?

Will these at home charging stations have a 100 foot extension cord? I assume the cord is pretty short?


My neighbor has a level 2 charger on the side of his house next to the garage door.  The cord is about 20 feet so he can park outside the garage and charge, or pull into the garage and charge.  Pretty simple and easy setup.

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Re: Rivian electric truck.
« Reply #17 on: November 08, 2022, 09:46:09 AM »
I would not say “far superior”. A different type, with different parameters. Steam has high power as well.
I like electric motors, but as has been beat to death on this site, the power supply part still is ‘in work’.
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Re: Rivian electric truck.
« Reply #18 on: November 08, 2022, 09:54:43 AM »
I would not say “far superior”. A different type, with different parameters. Steam has high power as well.
I like electric motors, but as has been beat to death on this site, the power supply part still is ‘in work’.

Lifetime on an electric motor in a vehicle is over 1 million miles.  Yes it is far superior to a gas engine by design.   Less moving parts.   

It's the batteries that are the challenge in electric cars.   

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Re: Rivian electric truck.
« Reply #19 on: November 08, 2022, 09:59:51 AM »
Thanks for the replies Salmosalar and CP. In my small world I do not know anyone who has an EV

Wife and i were talking the other night that perhaps it makes sense to own an EV, but also a gas powered car too. The EV being the every day driver, and a gas rig for backup, towing, going on trips, mountains, etc.

This mandating stuff (EV's and Vax)has gotten out of hand. Variety is the spice of life.

You guys see that they are mandating every new house starting in July will have to be heated and cooled with a heatpump? Gas is only to be used as backup?
https://www.thecentersquare.com/washington/washington-building-code-council-mandates-heat-pumps-in-all-new-homes/article_da78a11a-5ef8-11ed-9293-2386c56f6fbf.html

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Re: Rivian electric truck.
« Reply #20 on: November 08, 2022, 10:11:26 AM »
My question, going forward with the push to make everything EV, where do they think alllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll this electricity is going to come from?  :dunno:

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Re: Rivian electric truck.
« Reply #21 on: November 08, 2022, 10:27:49 AM »
Thanks for the replies Salmosalar and CP. In my small world I do not know anyone who has an EV

Wife and i were talking the other night that perhaps it makes sense to own an EV, but also a gas powered car too. The EV being the every day driver, and a gas rig for backup, towing, going on trips, mountains, etc.

This mandating stuff (EV's and Vax)has gotten out of hand. Variety is the spice of life.

You guys see that they are mandating every new house starting in July will have to be heated and cooled with a heatpump? Gas is only to be used as backup?
https://www.thecentersquare.com/washington/washington-building-code-council-mandates-heat-pumps-in-all-new-homes/article_da78a11a-5ef8-11ed-9293-2386c56f6fbf.html

Heat pumps and EVs are tools.  It’s a shame that they have been turned into political pawns.  Everyone should be able to pick the best tool for their particular job.

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Re: Rivian electric truck.
« Reply #22 on: November 08, 2022, 10:29:58 AM »
Big Fan.  Follower since 2019.

My wife's R1S set to be delivered in December after a 3 year wait.  Not the end all solution for every need of a vehicle but following the 80/20 rule, will be just fine. 

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Re: Rivian electric truck.
« Reply #23 on: November 08, 2022, 10:30:40 AM »
I would not say “far superior”. A different type, with different parameters. Steam has high power as well.
I like electric motors, but as has been beat to death on this site, the power supply part still is ‘in work’.

Lifetime on an electric motor in a vehicle is over 1 million miles.  Yes it is far superior to a gas engine by design.   Less moving parts.   

It's the batteries that are the challenge in electric cars.

I would not say “far superior”. A different type, with different parameters. Steam has high power as well.
I like electric motors, but as has been beat to death on this site, the power supply part still is ‘in work’.

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Re: Rivian electric truck.
« Reply #24 on: November 08, 2022, 07:34:32 PM »
One of my customers has 1, very cool rig, They LOVE it.
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Re: Rivian electric truck.
« Reply #25 on: November 08, 2022, 09:30:49 PM »
I've seen two rigs running around Vancouver. Looks interesting, but like a Kardashian, not to practical for the long haul. Support technology will not be there in our life time :twocents:
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Re: Rivian electric truck.
« Reply #26 on: November 08, 2022, 09:45:55 PM »
I've seen two rigs running around Vancouver. Looks interesting, but like a Kardashian, not to practical for the long haul. Support technology will not be there in our life time :twocents:

Support technology is there now if you want to drive back to your house every night.  For the Hunt-Wa community who wants to drive across three states and then sleep in the woods, I think you're right, gonna be some time before that's possible with EVs.  The Rivians are cool, but I can't have two trucks - one daily driver and one hunting rig that I can fill up on the fly in Missoula. 
 
I think the holy grail for these trucks would be rooftop solar and/or wind (turbine on the roof?) that is efficient enough to just continually charge.  Certainly not there yet. 

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Re: Rivian electric truck.
« Reply #27 on: November 09, 2022, 06:30:42 AM »
I have to admit that I haven't really been paying any attention to this "truck".  However, a couple of days ago I found myself following one through traffic in Bonney Lake.  My initial impression was that it appeared very light duty.  Especially when I noticed that it didn't even have a hitch receiver.   :dunno:
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Re: Rivian electric truck.
« Reply #28 on: November 09, 2022, 06:59:44 AM »
My opinion is that energy storage will evolve faster than charging technology.  You can only ram so many electrons down a cable per second so the charging rate has some bounds.  Storage doesn't have nearly the same limitations.  Either more storage or some form of swappable.

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Re: Rivian electric truck.
« Reply #29 on: November 09, 2022, 07:27:51 AM »
My opinion is that energy storage will evolve faster than charging technology.  You can only ram so many electrons down a cable per second so the charging rate has some bounds.  Storage doesn't have nearly the same limitations.  Either more storage or some form of swappable.

That right there is the future: swappable power supply.  Pull into a “gas” station, attendant slides your low batteries out and puts fresh ones in for a fee.  Back on the road with a full charge.  But at home or restaurant, grocery store, anywhere stationary and you plug in.  Like paying extra for
A propane tank swap vs having it filled.  Really the bones of our electric charging infrastructure is far superior to our current vehicle fuel supply system.  I dont know anyone with diesel pumps or gas pumps at home.  Everyone has power.

 


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