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Re: Montana 2023
« Reply #255 on: April 18, 2023, 12:56:21 PM »
Could be this year that the odds with zero points were better than odds with 2 points !  Last year for deer/elk it was 77% with zero and 97% with 2.  (0 % with one)
Not possible. I'd guess that 1pt was better odds than 0 this year for the first time in a while in all categories.
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Re: Montana 2023
« Reply #256 on: April 18, 2023, 12:59:38 PM »
Could be this year that the odds with zero points were better than odds with 2 points !  Last year for deer/elk it was 77% with zero and 97% with 2.  (0 % with one)
Not possible. I'd guess that 1pt was better odds than 0 this year for the first time in a while in all categories.
would that possibly mean there were less applicants totally???
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Re: Montana 2023
« Reply #257 on: April 18, 2023, 01:05:09 PM »
Could be this year that the odds with zero points were better than odds with 2 points !  Last year for deer/elk it was 77% with zero and 97% with 2.  (0 % with one)
Not possible. I'd guess that 1pt was better odds than 0 this year for the first time in a while in all categories.

1 point had the worst odds this yr
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Re: Montana 2023
« Reply #258 on: April 18, 2023, 01:05:58 PM »
Could be this year that the odds with zero points were better than odds with 2 points !  Last year for deer/elk it was 77% with zero and 97% with 2.  (0 % with one)
Not possible. I'd guess that 1pt was better odds than 0 this year for the first time in a while in all categories.

1 point had the worst odds this yr
are draw stats out already? All I can find from MT fwp is 2022 stats.
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Re: Montana 2023
« Reply #259 on: April 18, 2023, 01:47:59 PM »
Could be this year that the odds with zero points were better than odds with 2 points !  Last year for deer/elk it was 77% with zero and 97% with 2.  (0 % with one)
Not possible. I'd guess that 1pt was better odds than 0 this year for the first time in a while in all categories.


At a minimum the odds for zero I think went down substantially. It was so well publicized and everybody and their brother seemed to do a podcast on it ha ha. I have to believe a lot of applicants without points opted not to purchase 1 going into the draw.  It will be interesting to see this years odds.

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Re: Montana 2023
« Reply #260 on: April 18, 2023, 01:59:01 PM »
Could be this year that the odds with zero points were better than odds with 2 points !  Last year for deer/elk it was 77% with zero and 97% with 2.  (0 % with one)
Not possible. I'd guess that 1pt was better odds than 0 this year for the first time in a while in all categories.


At a minimum the odds for zero I think went down substantially. It was so well publicized and everybody and their brother seemed to do a podcast on it ha ha. I have to believe a lot of applicants without points opted not to purchase 1 going into the draw.  It will be interesting to see this years odds.
agreed. I also think a lot of people don't keep tabs or even understand how these draws work and lost their points completely.
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Re: Montana 2023
« Reply #261 on: April 18, 2023, 01:59:21 PM »
If 0 point odds went down that much, it means MT missed out on a bunch of revenue and I wouldn't be surprised if they changed the 25% draw to anyone that didn't draw in the 75% draw instead of only 0 points.  I never really understood that rule, seemed like what happened was pretty much guaranteed.  Depending on point creep, they might consider get rid of the 3 point cap as well.

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Re: Montana 2023
« Reply #262 on: April 18, 2023, 02:15:14 PM »
Im all for people who dont want to buy preference points having a chance in any draw. But if you choose to buy the point you should have better odds. Guess we will see how they go about that in the future.

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Re: Montana 2023
« Reply #263 on: April 18, 2023, 02:16:25 PM »
Since I am sitting out Montana this year, I plan to buy a point and apply next year while buying another point.
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Re: Montana 2023
« Reply #264 on: April 18, 2023, 02:30:39 PM »
Odds with 0 points were like 74% on GoHunt. If you bought a point with 0 going in, you prob didn't draw because you bought the point  :tung:

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Re: Montana 2023
« Reply #265 on: April 18, 2023, 02:32:22 PM »
 I am the only one in our group that drew, I didn’t buy a point, but others did.
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Re: Montana 2023
« Reply #266 on: April 18, 2023, 02:32:26 PM »
Since I am sitting out Montana this year, I plan to buy a point and apply next year while buying another point.
If you applied this year and didn’t opt in to the point pool, you cannot buy your preference point during the point buying period


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Re: Montana 2023
« Reply #267 on: April 18, 2023, 02:35:26 PM »
Odds with 0 points were like 74% on GoHunt. If you bought a point with 0 going in, you prob didn't draw because you bought the point  :tung:

That’s exactly what happened to us - we drew last year and the last few yes. Went in with zero and bought a point . And that pretty much put us into the very slim draw pool and did not draw. Which I’m fine with as I’m doing Saskatchewan this yr as well
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Re: Montana 2023
« Reply #268 on: April 18, 2023, 02:36:03 PM »
I’m hesitant to do this, but you huntwa folks are a good bunch, so if you didn’t get drawn for Montana and you are looking for a hunt for this fall, Idaho has a returned tag sale going on Thursday morning at 10 AM mountain time. 304 elk tags, 371 regular deer and 147 whitetail only and 1 DAV deer tag.


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Re: Montana 2023
« Reply #269 on: April 18, 2023, 02:38:07 PM »
I’m hesitant to do this, but you huntwa folks are a good bunch, so if you didn’t get drawn for Montana and you are looking for a hunt for this fall, Idaho has a returned tag sale going on Thursday morning at 10 AM mountain time. 304 elk tags, 371 regular deer and 147 whitetail only and 1 DAV deer tag.


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