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How easy it seems, with a simple slight of hand, to divert hunters' attention away from the real issues negatively affecting our heritage, so that we turn on each other while the wolves salivate on the sidelines over their success. In the perspective of what's happening to the future of hunting across our entire state, the Hanford bulls are not even a drop in the bucket.
It’s their peoples land, they can do what they please to do with it.
Quote from: El_morenito on December 30, 2023, 04:09:14 PMIt’s their peoples land, they can do what they please to do with it.wrong
When the agreements (treaties) were made BY OUR GOVERNMENT with what is basically ANOTHER GOVERNMENT, the non Tribal side IMMEDIATELY broke their promise and DID NOT HONOR THE TREATIES UNTIL THE 1980’s. Keep in mind the Tribes DO NOT need PERMISSION to hunt OR FISH, but they actually refrain from doing so (for the most part) to work in coordination with WDFW and Gov’t to not create more friction. It is their RIGHT to hunt, fish and take game by Tribal agreement, one Government to another. Could it be renegotiated? Sure. Will it? No. Should it? Debatable. Most of the arguments And complaints about Tribal rights I have heard for 60 plus years boil down to “I want” from the Non Tribal side. “It’s not fair!” True. The treaties were not honored until the 1980’s. Oh wait! Not the way intended!
I'm pretty sure if this hunt was for meat, like the ancestors of the current tribes focused on, those big old tuff bulls would be safe. It's pure and simply a trophy hunting opportunity that the non-tribal hunting community will never partake in. This has nothing to do with tradition or heritage. It is what it is.
Quote from: TD3939 on December 30, 2023, 06:33:22 PMI'm pretty sure if this hunt was for meat, like the ancestors of the current tribes focused on, those big old tuff bulls would be safe. It's pure and simply a trophy hunting opportunity that the non-tribal hunting community will never partake in. This has nothing to do with tradition or heritage. It is what it is.we will prob never know the back door deals that went down on this one.
Quote from: pianoman9701 on December 30, 2023, 10:35:11 AMHow easy it seems, with a simple slight of hand, to divert hunters' attention away from the real issues negatively affecting our heritage, so that we turn on each other while the wolves salivate on the sidelines over their success. In the perspective of what's happening to the future of hunting across our entire state, the Hanford bulls are not even a drop in the bucket.Well said.
Quote from: trophyhunt on December 30, 2023, 06:59:52 PMQuote from: TD3939 on December 30, 2023, 06:33:22 PMI'm pretty sure if this hunt was for meat, like the ancestors of the current tribes focused on, those big old tuff bulls would be safe. It's pure and simply a trophy hunting opportunity that the non-tribal hunting community will never partake in. This has nothing to do with tradition or heritage. It is what it is.we will prob never know the back door deals that went down on this one.Oh I think we know. I do believe politics play a role. Democrats/WDFW are bleeding hearts always caving to the tribes. Tribes are always willing to accept the cheese. Democrats actually do more damage to the natives and their heritage and don’t even realize it. This was an absolute waste...mismanage a population and then allow this type of activity (not calling it hunting). You’d think some of these coulda been relocated I don’t see anything on this subject relating to a treaty. That’s just an excuse. Looks like entitlement and greed? This goes against what natives have historically stood for. You can’t tell me when the treaty was signed there was an idea of natives driving around in trucks chasing/shooting trophy bulls with some sort of pride....I to think their ancestors wouldn’t be to proud.
