More special privileges

[Tbar]

“ in common with” says that in the treaty I believe, pretty big statement since we non natives are losing hunts. Maybe this commission is a God send.

Interesting opinion. Not sure you are in tune with "this commission", or their positions.  If you are,  care to elaborate?  To me this shows an emotion driven combative position. It also shows the willingness to sacrifice hunting out of spite and jealously. Very frustrating watching the two extremes at work facilitating losses to consumptive users, one out of spite and the other with an fantasy of "nature".

[LDennis24]

@Whitefoot your inbox is full

[Whitefoot]

@Whitefoot your inbox is full

Yeah, i have to clean it up.  Thanks!

[trophyhunt]

“ in common with” says that in the treaty I believe, pretty big statement since we non natives are losing hunts. Maybe this commission is a God send.

Interesting opinion. Not sure you are in tune with "this commission", or their positions.  If you are,  care to elaborate?  To me this shows an emotion driven combative position. It also shows the willingness to sacrifice hunting out of spite and jealously. Very frustrating watching the two extremes at work facilitating losses to consumptive users, one out of spite and the other with an fantasy of "nature".

my point, if this commision ends hunting for non natives, maybe that will affect the tribes when it comes to “in common with”.  Maybe then, IF the tribal hunting in this state was in trouble, we could finally get on the same page.  Your high and mighty stance that some of us are just jealous reminds me of middle school kids on the playground, jealously may be a tiny part of it but switch roles and you’d be just as mad about it.  So do tell us, what if you were non native and you had way different rules strictly because you were “non” native, you’d be happy about it? Let me guess, your gonna say, I’d do something about it besides bitchin??  Well, you and I both know, we non natives can’t do chit about it. 

[Platensek-po]

There are more tag buying hunters in the state of Washington than tribal members. Kind of a crazy statistic.

[Tbar]

“ in common with” says that in the treaty I believe, pretty big statement since we non natives are losing hunts. Maybe this commission is a God send.

Interesting opinion. Not sure you are in tune with "this commission", or their positions.  If you are,  care to elaborate?  To me this shows an emotion driven combative position. It also shows the willingness to sacrifice hunting out of spite and jealously. Very frustrating watching the two extremes at work facilitating losses to consumptive users, one out of spite and the other with an fantasy of "nature".

my point, if this commision ends hunting for non natives, maybe that will affect the tribes when it comes to “in common with”.  Maybe then, IF the tribal hunting in this state was in trouble, we could finally get on the same page.  Your high and mighty stance that some of us are just jealous reminds me of middle school kids on the playground, jealously may be a tiny part of it but switch roles and you’d be just as mad about it.  So do tell us, what if you were non native and you had way different rules strictly because you were “non” native, you’d be happy about it? Let me guess, your gonna say, I’d do something about it besides bitchin??  Well, you and I both know, we non natives can’t do chit about it.

FYI, in common with is a yet to be adjudicated term on the terrestrial side. In fishing it resulted in allocation.  A bit premature to argue the future of interpretation.

[Elkaholic daWg]

How many can they shoot, well, their limits are zero, nada, zilch with deer and elk. Great conservation, but if they shoot them all, they can just go back to the colockum and shoot another 400+ bull.

Really think they won't  while this is going on?

[trophyhunt]

How many can they shoot, well, their limits are zero, nada, zilch with deer and elk. Great conservation, but if they shoot them all, they can just go back to the colockum and shoot another 400+ bull.

Really think they won't  while this is going on?

Oh I’m sure they will, especially after reading this thread and the other mad comments on the newspapers Facebook page when they posted the article. But then the news paper took the comments off and blocked comments when a native complained to the news. I’m sure there will be an “out of spite” hunt coming soon.

[idaho guy]

Some good points, opening the unit to natives may lead to opening it up for non natives, that would be good. But when people say if you had the same rights you’d do the same, that’s where I don’t agree.  To my core I don’t like to waste game, I’ve had/have open tags but when the freezer is full from myself or the wife, I’m done. Of course I have friends and family that say they’ll take my animal if I keep hunting, it just doesn’t feel right to me. Just because you/they can, doesn’t mean it’s right or it helps the herds. The Hanford herd may need to be thinned, hopefully they add non native tags soon.

 

winner. I think this is where the frustration is for most. Just because you can doesn't mean you should. I usually have 2 elk tags every year. 1 montana and 1 idaho. If me and my son both get an elk thats plenty for the house. I have eaten a few elk tags that I could have easily filled.  Whats the point of killing more than you need? I think this specific native hunt opportunity is a good deal. The herd needs thinning and it might possibly open the door to non native hunts. Hunting should be used to manage the herd and NOBODY is hunting them. Could be worse I just read an article where California is using tax payer money to hire sharpshooters to kill every mule deer on Catalina island. I would rather have natives hunt.  Might also push a few into surrounding units with existing "white guy" 😂 hunts

[Bone collector 13]

Seen this on instagram today

[LDennis24]

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[Jake Dogfish]

My problem with the whole thing is simple;  if it is “safe” and “secure” enough for tribal members to have a limited hunt out there, the same thing should apply for non-tribal members.  Drawing…raffle…whatever, it should be allowed.

After the tribes were allowed casinos in Washington they have been pumping money into politicians campaigns to the point that they wield immense power in Olympia, and that Pandora’s box will never close.

The real issue is that equity is all certain groups scream about until things are actually in their favor, at which point they no longer talk about equity because they have more than the next guy, which was the whole point all along.  Our society is screwed…

lol. pumping money into politicians?   Ok!

Tribes gave $650,000 to Gregoire to kill the casino compact  that would have benefited the whole state

More recently they were given exclusive sports gambling rights.  Can’t even bet online legally in this state.  Our government is under complete control by tribal interests.

[Buzzsaw461]

My problem with the whole thing is simple;  if it is “safe” and “secure” enough for tribal members to have a limited hunt out there, the same thing should apply for non-tribal members.  Drawing…raffle…whatever, it should be allowed.

After the tribes were allowed casinos in Washington they have been pumping money into politicians campaigns to the point that they wield immense power in Olympia, and that Pandora’s box will never close.

The real issue is that equity is all certain groups scream about until things are actually in their favor, at which point they no longer talk about equity because they have more than the next guy, which was the whole point all along.  Our society is screwed…

lol. pumping money into politicians?   Ok!

Tribes gave $650,000 to Gregoire to kill the casino compact  that would have benefited the whole state

More recently they were given exclusive sports gambling rights.  Can’t even bet online legally in this state.  Our government is under complete control by tribal interests.

So true.

[Tbar]

Seen this on instagram today

Photo is over a decade old.

[Bob33]

Seen this on instagram today

Photo is over a decade old.

Some Hunt WA member has an Instagram account.